Arum: 50/50 And Pacquiao-Mayweather is ON!

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  1. tolindoy

    tolindoy UBESTRIDTE MESTER Full Member

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    PBF the draw? are you nuts??? PBF-JMM is a flop....PBF is th draw my ass!!!:rofl:rofl:rofl
     
  2. tolindoy

    tolindoy UBESTRIDTE MESTER Full Member

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    Most of PBF's fights are boring...:good
     
  3. igor_otsky

    igor_otsky Undefeated Full Member

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    damn.. Arum just couldnt make up his mind.. always thinking the best $$$ lol
     
  4. Knives7

    Knives7 Boxing Addict banned

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    It doesn't matter where Fraud beat Oscar. Fraud didn't beat him convincingly but Manny did.
    Manny beat a more confident and better shaped undefeated 140 Hatton.

    Pacquiao fought them when the economy was going through recession, Fraud did not, thus, Fraud getting the bigger ppv numbers.

    Fraud Gayweather - Juan Manuel Marquez fight is being posponed because the tickets for the fight is not selling well. It's not because he is injured. That's just bull****.

    Pacquiao is definitely a bigger draw than Gayweather.
     
  5. dhenzrae

    dhenzrae A Proud Noypi Full Member

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    most likely
     
  6. Evil Rich

    Evil Rich Tweety is PISSED off! Full Member

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    Totally agree with this statement, it doesn't matter which way you swing it Floyd is "the man", undefeated and fought both Hatton/Oscar closer to there prime and he is also right in saying the those two men were never the same after they got beat by him.

    It's funny Arum would say that Floyd only fought over the hill fighters when Manny has got famous fighting both DLH and Hatton, 2 men PBF had already knocked out and were way past there primes.

    I want this fight so much but I will say this, if Pac fights Cotto and wins, he deserves a 50/50 split with Floyd no matter what PBF says, if he doesn't, I think Floyd deserves the more money. To me Pacquiao is only P4P No.1 because Mayweather retired, I wouldn't mind being proven wrong as all I really care about is seeing this fight at some point but I just can't see anyone in the world who is even close to PBF.
     
  7. tolindoy

    tolindoy UBESTRIDTE MESTER Full Member

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    Are you ****in serious??? Fighters got ruined when they are beaten very badly, in other words demolished!!! WTF, PBF didnt beat them convincingly...Pac demolished them and made them look like nobodies, deal with it...:deal:deal:deal

    50/50 is the only logical money split....PBF-JMM is a flop, no way in hell PBF is the draw...
     
  8. LaidOut

    LaidOut Whaaaaat? Full Member

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    50/50? Let's make it happen then.
     
  9. james442

    james442 Member Full Member

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    I agree...I think even though Floyd isnt a the biggest draw he is STILL the man and is STILL undefeated...Arum is always playing these Jedi mind tricks.
     
  10. Evil Rich

    Evil Rich Tweety is PISSED off! Full Member

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    Hatton's first knock out in what I would say was a picture perfect demolition of a fighter, he broke his spirit and his chin...nobody had done this before and you can see (ala Cotto) how this can effect a boxer.

    With DLH he was CLEARLY past his prime after Mayweather and Pac man's complete dominance of him was proof of that, you know and I know he was a shot fighter, you can't even argue that. Maybe PBF wasn't as responsible for DLH as he was Hatton but it is clear that Pac fought both men well past there prime, simply un arguable.

    PBF has won my respect (being British, the Hatton demolition was enough) as the best fighter in the world, I don't think Pac man is as good as him and I'm pretty sure the majority of "fight" fans would agree that he'd probably beat Pac as he is a bigger, better version of JMM and JMM took Pac VERY close (I think he won the fights but have no quarrel with Pac winning by close decisions). To me he is the no.1 fighter until he is beat, not until he pretends to retire but as I said previously, if Pac man beats Cotto then I'm ready to consider him PBF's equal.

    Although, I'm hoping JMM beats Floyd, I'd see him as the P4P No.1 then and would love to see a third match with Pac Man after it, although I believed in miracles with Ricky Hatton...I'm not quite ready to get burnt again (are you listening Khan and Haye?!).
     
  11. tolindoy

    tolindoy UBESTRIDTE MESTER Full Member

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    Cotto was battered for how many rounds..Hatton wasn't, until that flash knockout...If you think Hatton was not the same, so maybe pac also since he was KTFO TWICE before???

    My point is I dont think Hatton was ruined, just that pac got the better of him....ODLH was shot, BUT not because of PBF...PBF did nothing to make him shot, ODLH did it to himself...
     
  12. Evil Rich

    Evil Rich Tweety is PISSED off! Full Member

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    I'll concede the ODLH to a point, but I still think any loss is detrimental to a career. With Hatton however I have to disagree, Hatton was showing signs of age before he stepped in the ring with PBF and the guy was out classed, shown to be no where near PBF in terms of ability, finally being knocked out by a guy who isn't known for it. Hatton has admitted to being completely devastated and drowning his sorrows, it took a heavy toll in mind and body on Ricky and he was sure as hell not the fighter he was...would it have made a difference to the Pac man fight? Maybe, maybe not, I think he'd have lasted longer and been able to test whether Pac could deal with Hattons punches or not.

    Fact is, PBF was "braver" at the very least for stepping in with Ricky when he was undefeated and had such over whelming support (he did for the Pac man fight but they weren't half as confident as when he fought PBF), yet PBF got the victory and proved Hatton was a flawed fighter. That to me earns more respect then beating a beaten fighter, taking away someone's 0 is a big thing to me when they've had 42 fights or whatever he'd had at the time.

    Pac man went down early in his career (as far as I'm aware), and came back, learnt from it and went on to be stronger because his body allowed him too. Ricky was too old to be able to do this in my opinion and couldn't change his flawed style against top level guys even if he had wanted to. Please don't think that I see Manny as a bad fighter cause I think he is breath taking to watch but to me PBF is "the man" and until Manny beats him, that's where he will stay in my eyes.
     
  13. Scar

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    50/50 is fair in my opinion, if Mayweather doesn't take it if both guys are successful in their next fights then he blows it and will get HARSH criticism for it and no one should back him up for it. Pacquiao came a long way as Mayweather did maybe even further at this point and 50% is what he deserves if not more. No way should anyone argue Pac deserves any less than that, not even 1%.
     
  14. kadyo

    kadyo Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Arum said even 50/50 is a joke.
     
  15. T.C.W

    T.C.W Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    then there is no chance of a fight.