As Champ Did Hagler Feast On Smaller Challengers?

John Mugabi was a huge puncher and Marvin did quite well there didnt he

 

He did Feast on the Beast, and yes he had a presence about him that made his opposition look smaller.

But have no doubt Obelmejias was a huge 160lber and the likes of Hamsho, Roldan, Vito and Minter were 'legitimate' 160lbers when they fought the Marvelous One. I am also pretty sure Tommy was glad he had an extra 6lbs to play with, ditto Mugabi.

And looking at his own weight, I suspect if it came down to it Marvin would of gone down to 154 rather than up to 168 if he had to make such decision, as he was a 160lber, but was just as likely to weigh in at 158 as he was 160lbs.

 

Not interpreted as an attempt at derogation by me, Mac. It's simply a question, and I'm as curious as you to see what kind of replies crop up. I figured I'd drop in a few comments for the uninitiated [very definitely NOT you] to consider.

 

Obviously a nonsense post.

Hagler was a true middleweight and he defeated a ton of brutally tough, legit middleweights. The record speaks for itself.

 

Was going to be my first point

 

Agree with your post, but for that comment.

'Records' do not 'speak for themselves'. If they did we would not need a forum, because boxrec would have all the answers!

Every fighters record needs to be interpreted, they do not 'speak for themselves', the sport is more complicated than who you beat and your win percentage...

 

Was going to be my second point

 

But then saw the above and thought how this place has fallen and thought what's the point

 

What Sugar Ray Leonard one of the greatest fighters to ever lace on a pair of gloves? This was post prime Hagler who had contemplated retirement after his fight with Mugabi. Leonard's win was marginal at best and relied on flashy work at the end of each round to catch the eye of the judges. Have no doubt about it Hagler was the real deal and one of the toughest guys to ever step in a ring.

 

I've never read a name that Hagler "should have fought" and he was a pro for 15 years and fighting ATG's coming up in weight was where the money was. He had nowhere to go weight wise and was proud of the legacy he was building at MW. Opponents were always going to come to where he was rather than Hagler chasing opponents outside MW. He weighed 158 in one of his later fights (Mugabi maybe?) so LHW was not even an option

Hearns visited Hagler in his dressing room after their fight and said "you go up to LHW and I'll take care of the MWS". Hagler replied "you move up"

 

The answer is no.

From Minter to Mugabi, Marvelous took care of all middleweight comers over 7 years.

He was physically gifted and tremendously conditioned--which may have made him seem like a giant--but that is what every all-time great champion, such as he, is and does.

 

It's true that the biggest names he fought were ex-welterweights and one ex-lightweight. However, they would all have success at middleweight and beyond. While not as good at middleweight as at their prime weight, they were still very good.

Has anyone ever done a title-defense comparison between Hagler and Monzon? I think Hagler would edge this, but I'm not sure.