At 147, how would Mayweather match-up with Robinson?

He loses almost everytime but he doesn't get blown out. I think Floyd can have more success against him than he would against SRL.

 

floyd is good enough to make it interesting, but no one beats SRR at 147 on his best night, except for MAYBE SRL

 

Floyd gets bombed out early and it's not a competitve bout. We are talking about Robinson at his peak and Mayweather is not at his peak at 147.

To be quite honest, Floyd is going to get hit hard and clean and I just don't think he has the chin like a Gavilan to survive the duration of the fight. Robinson sets up the KO with an effective jab and body work before he puts Floyd to sleep.

 

Floyd has never had to deal with anything close to what SRR would bring to the table. He was just too much of everything for Floyd. Floyd is smart enought that he wouldnt get kod, but I can see him losing a wide UD and being very uncomfortable in there.

 

one thing we are forgetting is the size advantage for robinson, wasn't he 6ft? More importantly we are forgetting that floyd would avoid the fight at all costs. Imagine a prime robinson wrecking everything in his division at the same time floyd is fighting, he would retire or make it into some media circus just to avoid the fight.

 

Floyd at 147 is NOT at his prime. He simply doesn't punch enough, move enough, or hit hard enough. He's not going to have a huge speed advantage vs. SRR. He's not a hard enough hitter to keep his opponents at bay ala' Hopkins when it comes to being economical and picking his punches. SRL isn't some come forward brawler, so all the posts about his defense aren't exactly apt. He isn't MArgarito, or one who led with this chin. But he DID have an iron chin. And he would be able to walk through Floyd, if not make him fight, which Floyd doesn't like to do. Floyd likes to be in his comfort zone. He would not be vs. SRR.

 

considering how he dominated sharmba mitchell
and that guy that never fought at 140 or 147 JMM
and his dominating of zab judah who was just coming off a loss being dominated by 9 loss Carlos Baldomir
and beating up the 9 loss guy in the fight after...i dont see how floyd could possibly lose to SRR
:bbb

 

It's the matchup. Floyd does not hit hard enough to get get Sugar Rays respect. His defense would get bombarded from all angles by a guy who had chilling power in both hands and has faster hands. When Mayweather gets clipped, he's not surviving.

 

The notion that Mayweather doesn't hit hard enough to garner respect in this fight is foolish IMO.

 

Quite frankly, he's doesn't throw enough to get the respect of Robinson. He'd be in a defensive shell, pot shotting but this time he wouldn't get away with it because he'd be in the ring with somone who is flat out better then him.

 

I disagree. His track record at 147, combined with him NOT putting full force on his punches (dating back to his hand problems) seems to back up that notion.

Now I think he has more of a 'stinging' punch based on his accuracy, if that makes sense.

EVEN if he did punch hard, SRL's rock solid chin would easily withstand ANYTHING he threw. And that's what it goes back to. Floyds punches not being solid enough, or just throwing enough.

 

Well said. He'd take Floyd right out of his comfort zone, and at that point, Floyd's effectiveness drops heavily.

 

There isn't dynamite in his fists, you're both right.

My argument would be based on his accuracy (As lance says, it stings) and ability to time his shots to add the effect where his opponent doesn't always see it coming, which adds to the impact.

Also, I don't think Mayweather throws punches to take his opponent out(there seems to be moments in his fights where he does put more pop on his punches), in this fight he would be forced to throw with full force (In turn he would leave himself more open) Robinson will end up respecting Floyd's ability to land if nothing else, he won't be walking forwards with a grin.

A side note about Floyd's mentality, his greatest performances have come on his biggest nights, he rises to the occasion, and he would need to here.

 

To the ones questioning Robinsons greatness for the sole reason he fought 50+ yrs ago listen to yourselves. Robinson and Leonard have set a bar for greatness and if Floyd has not met that standard it shouldn't be the classic fighters greatness that should be questioned. Just look who Floyd has fought and at what point his opponents were in their careers and that says it all. If his own father had trouble saying Floyd won against a fighter that was 1 fight away from retiring what does that say about him? Is this a ****ing joke? And someone saying back then they were primitive when you had Tunney, Pep, Benny Leonard, and Floyd Patterson? I guess DaVinci and Burley were primitive too. This isn't Sullivan or bare knuckle fighting. These aren't cavemen. Some of you dumbasses acting like SRR was encino man.