At This Point Is Pacquiao A Full Fledged Welter Weight?

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  1. Rexrapper 1

    Rexrapper 1 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Pac walks around at 155. I think he is a full welter now. If he wasn't then he shouldn't have a problem fighting marquez at 140. His camp says they will only fight marquez at 147.
     
  2. AnthonyW

    AnthonyW ESB Official Gif Poster Full Member

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    I don't agree. If he were to ever make 135lbs again, I would be 100% certain he would not stay there for more than that 1 bout (which makes it fairly irrelevant to make that weight again).

    140lbs - he wouldn't stay there for more than 1 or 2 bouts.

    He has grown into the Welter division, ignoring the weight. It's a natural progression.

    He is being classed as a Light Middle beater by a number of people on this forum...a Light Middle beater who can still make 135lbs...it's not that simple at all.
     
  3. AnthonyW

    AnthonyW ESB Official Gif Poster Full Member

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    The Jr Welters weigh more...whats your point? Pacquiao moved up to Welter because the better match-ups were at Welter. The more significant match-ups were at Welter. The more money was in the Welterweight division.

    Pacquiao does not move between 135lbs and 147lbs as easy as people claim.

    If anyone has ever moved up a weight class in there life, had more than 2 bouts there, then tried to move back down to the previous weight class, it's not as easy as it looks...despite fight night weights.

    Edit: Collective wisdom of ESB? Have you seen the General Forum over the last 2-3 weeks?
     
  4. TheDon

    TheDon KO Artist Full Member

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    Lets agreee to disagree then :bart
     
  5. PNoyFightFanUSN

    PNoyFightFanUSN Larry Don't Give a **** Full Member

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    True welter in the sense that he weighs a full 147? I still see him as being able to make Junior welter easily. They say he gets to eat whatever the hell he wants and have a full breakfast before the weigh-in so I'm not sold on him being 147 all the time.
     
  6. AnthonyW

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    :thumbsup
     
  7. bballchump11

    bballchump11 2011 Poster of the Year Full Member

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    :nono Look at the Margarito fight
     
  8. sosolid4u09

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    A true welterweight doesnt aim to come in at 144/145 pounds.

    Thats after eating god knows how many thousands of calories a day
     
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    erm he weighed in at 144.5 pounds against margo....
     
  10. bballchump11

    bballchump11 2011 Poster of the Year Full Member

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    day of the fight he weighed 148
     
  11. causality

    causality Well-Known Member Full Member

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    He did say he did it to have the speed advantage. The calories he eats IMO is not to gain weight but to support his training regimen.
    Pac is a true but unconventional fighter at WW. In fact, the best active fighter at WW.
     
  12. konaman

    konaman Boxing Addict Full Member

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    He fights exclusively at welterweight, that makes him a welterweight. The phrase full-fledged though would imply that he is a proper sized welterweight, when really he isn't even a large JR welter on fight night.

    A full fleged welterweight probably wouldn't enter the ring below 154.
     
  13. puga_ni_nana

    puga_ni_nana Dempsey Roll Full Member

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    he is fighting now at weterweight so that's his weight class. but he is small at the weight that he usually tip the scales at 142-145 and would be 147-148 on fight night.
     
  14. Triggerhappy

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    His body has acclimatized into the ww weight range because of the fights there, but IF after diaz he stayed or gradually moved up into 140 range he could easily be fighting 140 right now. I agree with AnthonyW that it's not easy to lose set muscles and go down. He could, but he might not be as effective.

    You could say that the DLH fight is to blame somewhat as to why we didn't see Pac more at 140.
     
  15. Chempasillo

    Chempasillo Boxing Addict Full Member

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    he big now, welterweight he is now.