Bernard Hopkins or Manny Pacquaio? Who do you think is better all around fighter?

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  1. Keyser Soze

    Keyser Soze Member Full Member

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    Just the fact that Pac doesn't blatantly use head butts and holds and part of his boxing style should tell you. I hated Hatton for the holding ****, and I hate Ward now for it. I'm not saying they are bad boxers; but why should you start dirty from round 1 before even trying to figure out the opponent?
     
  2. Canibus81

    Canibus81 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    By your logic than Roberto Duren and Sandy Saddler also suck.
     
  3. Keyser Soze

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    Not saying they suck, it's just a BS style of fighting. They obviously have the skills to do some work, without holding and hitting out of clinches and **** like that. They do it anyway, either to frustrate the opponent (or the audience). Ref's shouldn't even let fighters do **** like that, and sometimes when they fight out of their country, we see them get told to fight, or **** off.
     
  4. Abdullah

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    Manny P
     
  5. dubace

    dubace Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Hopkins wins easily. i mean he's 46. he didn't always fight conservatively.
     
  6. KidPerat

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    Pac without a doubt. Hopkins is great, there's no denying his achievements and he knows how to win fights (by any means necessary.) But Pac is the better overall athlete and he's on a roll of dominance that Hopkins has never had.
     
  7. SouthpawJab

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    Pac is more physically talented...but Bernard's intelligence, defense, and dirty tactics make him a better fighter. Prime Bernard has very small weaknesses. Pac has more glaring ones.
     
  8. big_AL

    big_AL P4P #1 Full Member

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    not sure if you've heard of this hopkins guy,he has a few noteworthy accomplishments himself
     
  9. Bogotazo

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    What about his decade long middleweight reign?
     
  10. SRCP

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    Pac wins without bull****. Pac by far.
     
  11. big_AL

    big_AL P4P #1 Full Member

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    hopkins was the middleweight champ for 10 years last time i looked?

    obviously he was never as famous or well documented as pac but in boxing terms hopkins was extremely dominant
     
  12. horst

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    Manny Pacquiao 2008-2011 or Bernard Hopkins 1997-2001.

    Who was the more all-round effective fighter.

    This is a very difficult question indeed.

    The best Hopkins I ever saw was against Glen Johnson in 1997, in the second Antwun Echols fight in 2000, and in the Felix Trinidad fight in 2001.

    The best Pacquiao I ever saw was against Oscar De La Hoya in 2008, Ricky Hatton in 2009, Miguel Cotto in 2009, and Antonio Margarito in 2010.


    Ultimately, after much thought and consideration, I have to go with Pacquiao, for several reasons.

    Although Hopkins was more versatile, more cerebral and technically better, even at his awesome best I don't think he was quite as incisive, quite as dynamic, quite as potent and quite as fearsome as the best Manny Pacquiao.

    But there's not much in it. I wouldn't argue too much with someone who saw it the other way around. Two very special fighters indeed.
     
  13. Rexrapper 1

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    Its Hopkins.
     
  14. elmaldito

    elmaldito Skillz Full Member

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    pacman right now.......alltime hopkins easy. I cant think of a more complete fighter than hopkins in his prime.
     
  15. KidPerat

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    Who did he fight in those 10 years? The class of opponents that Pac has been dominating is far, far greater.