Best strategy for a boxer vs a mma fighter?

Discussion in 'Boxing Training' started by Bogotazo, Apr 5, 2010.


  1. Onepunch

    Onepunch Prestigeous clincher Full Member

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    I agree witht the point that strikers are dasadvantaged but you should know that the Ramon Dekkers in that vid was similar to the Mike Tyson that fought Danny Williams.. older, fatter and very washed up.
     
  2. viru§™

    viru§™ Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    The point is the guy just has to get close enough to grab you, if you walk at him you make the job easier. What makes you think he'll go high? There's a huge number of techniques he could potentially use but obviously you must know what he's going to do. Why would you want him to go high anyway? You're not still clinging to the "Hook or uppercut when he comes in" idea are you? The odds of you seeing the shot coming and reacting in time will be near enough 0.

    Yes. That's known as respect.

    I like your attitude as to how you just clinch the guy then you get away or "he's going to be trying to trip you up and throw knees. Deal with it." What about when he takes you down, as soon as he grabs you that's what he's going to do. Once an MMA fighter has the underhooks in you're going to the ground since you don't have a clue how to combat that.

    Then what? Lose the round, lying there doing nothing? Waste all your energy for the next round holding on to him or just get that tired from trying to hold him down you can't defend his ground and pound?

    First thing I agree with. A boxer can only punch and move, obviously he should move in and punch, it increases his chances but not by a huge amount, just he's using his skills more instead of trying to counter.

    I like how you think you can just kick and it'll hurt. Have you ever seen somebody trying to throw a roundhouse kick for the first time or even after a month or 2 of practice? 99% of the time it isn't pretty. No balance, no power, no control, it's awful. Why you think a boxer can just start throwing kicks I don't know. Another point is where are you going to kick him? You won't be able to aim your kicks either since you don't know how to kick, so I guess it doesn't matter actually...

    The boxer has a chance but what you don't seem to want to accept is it's a VERY slim chance. Same an MMA fighter will have a VERY slim chance vs a boxer in a boxing match, you'd agree with that but people won't seem to see it the other way round as boxer vs MMA in an MMA match.

    As a boxer you would take an MMA fighter to the ground? :patsch

    It doesn't take a huge amount of experience of wrestling to take you down. It doesn't take a huge amount of experience of BJJ to know some submissions/chokes. It doesn't take a huge amount of experience in Muay Thai to know how to do basic punches, elbows, knees and kicks. So MMA has the basics of standing, take downs and ground game. You are abount mediocre/good at standing and that's it. The odds go to MMA.

    I don't know if we're talking street fight or UFC bout anymore, it doesn't really matter. The more tools you can bring to a fight the more chance you have of winning, simple as that.

    Depends why you're doing that.

    Instead of coming up with these ideas that you can just stand up when you're taken down and you can just break away from a clinch because you're a man or you can avoid a takedown because you've done a bit of wrestling, maybe you should go do a few MMA classes. Your opinions and views will change very quickly, I guarantee. I used to do the same as you and think I could just get up and avoid takedowns and whatever else but after going to just one MMA class my views changed completely.
     
  3. Sprawla

    Sprawla Active Member Full Member

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    how experienced was the guy you were grappling?

    you would have no chance against a good grappler, you would be choked to sleep or get seriously hurt in a submission..
     
  4. viru§™

    viru§™ Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    From what he's said so far the guy just couldn't be bothered or he absolutely sucks at MMA.
     
  5. Jersey Joe

    Jersey Joe Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Get top notch takedown defence, square up your stance, and learn to check and block kicks, otherwise you are ****ed.
     
  6. viru§™

    viru§™ Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Hang on, are we talking about a BOXER vs an MMA guy here or are we talking about what a boxer needs to train to fight an MMA guy? Why people keep saying train this train that I don't know. The quetion is in a match what should a BOXER do to win a fight vs MMA. If you start training sprawls, kicks, elbows, checking kicks etc you're pretty much an MMA fighter, not a boxer.
     
  7. KillSomething

    KillSomething Boxing Junkie Full Member

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  9. boxer13

    boxer13 New Member Full Member

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    No I admit I never have grappled before besides screwing around with my friends and I'm not taking anything away from an MMA fighter or belittle them I'm just saying if I were to get into a street fight with anyone, even if I knew bjj or wrestling, I would NOT want to get that close to my opponent anyway. In a street fight you never know what may happen, and being that close to someone is extremely dangerous. It doesn't take much training to go for someones groin or eyes or throat and I'd think it would take less time to do that then to get into position to set up chokes or other techniques.
     
  10. boxer13

    boxer13 New Member Full Member

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    Okay he can do it too but that doesn't mean hes a better eye gouger or dirty fighter than I am since we both are probably not training to do that in our respective sports. Yes he probably will have better positioning than me but thats the thing about life or death techniques such as this, they don't take much strength, technique or time to do and cause massive amounts of damage.
     
  11. floyd1982

    floyd1982 New Member Full Member

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    didn't you do the same :yep
     
  12. paloalto00

    paloalto00 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Lol, he only has about 4 pro fights; idk how many amateurs though. And says who? You're basing this on philosphy.
     
  13. paloalto00

    paloalto00 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Nope :yep
     
  14. Sprawla

    Sprawla Active Member Full Member

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    what you are saying is true, but i thought this was about a boxer vs mma. Not about street fighting.
    Don't forget a lot of mma fighters kick box or do muay thai. A kick lands befor a punch everytime
     
  15. Sprawla

    Sprawla Active Member Full Member

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    you are a ****ing goose and a liar. A decent grappler would **** up any beginner. I will not debate this with tossers.