Beterbiev enters Ring p4p..

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  1. Liquorice

    Liquorice Boxing Addict Full Member

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    :lol:

    I feel u on the juice heads thing.. it pains me to put cinnamon on mine but I'm a liberal at heart & someone who won't discriminate against the gingers..
     
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  2. Serge

    Serge Vampire Slayer Staff Member

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    :lol: I'm ashamed of how evil I am towards gingers and how much I discriminate against them and I've failed the psychopath test everytime I've taken it. Only ginger men though. Ginger women are godly lol
     
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  3. Liquorice

    Liquorice Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I'm a carrier unfortunately.. my grandmother basically looked like a fox.. So i sort of have first hand experience of the impact it can have on peoples lives..
     
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  4. Boxingfan200

    Boxingfan200 USYK #1 P4P Full Member

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    Crawford needs to drop sorry but his resume he should not even be top 5 anymore.
     
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  5. Serge

    Serge Vampire Slayer Staff Member

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    El Chicano Boxing Addict booted Full Member

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    How do u get on with 1 quality win?

    Need at least a few IMO
     
  7. Contro

    Contro Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Nah Prime Thurman was p4p level himself, beat 2 very solid champions for his titles. Would have backed him against Jeff Horn(wbo) and green Spence or a damaged brook(IBF) as well in 2016-2017

    But it wasn't prime thurman. Current Thurman is about Gvozdyk level. Above Paper champ/beltholder level but below "top dog in division".


    10/10 win= for example Duran over Leonard, LaMotta over Robinson, Ali over foreman
    Jones over toney, Mosley over De La Hoya, Morales/Barrera, Douglas over Tyson, Rahman over Lewis
    (Opponent is ATG and prime)

    9/10 win= Toney over Nunn, Pacquiao over Cotto, chavez over taylor, Marquez over Pacquiao, Barrera over Hamed, Holyfield over Tyson, Leonard over duran, Hopkins over trinidad, Cotto over Mosley, ward over kovalev
    (Opponent is close to prime and HOF, or ATG but further from prime/smaller)

    8/10 win= beterbiev over Gvozdyk, Kovalev over Pascal, Ward over Froch , Canelo over Jacobs
    (Opponent is a solid champion,top contender)
     
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  8. "TKO"

    "TKO" Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Don't know.... It would be a great achievement. But I've never been a fan of fighters being put in the p4p lists based on victories over a single opponent, even if the opponent is an elite operator and even if they do repeat in a rematch. For me, p4p is about being able to prove yourself the better man against a range of different styles and qualities over a period of time, more than just one fighter where you may just 'have his number'. I guess I've just seen too many Junior Jones, Vernon Forrest, Ricardo Mayorga 'p4p for a day' types of fighters....
     
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  9. Mendoza

    Mendoza Hrgovic = Next Heavyweight champion of the world. Full Member

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    First thought boxing has many skilled fighters. It's a deep list. I don't think Beterbiev has pound for pound skills, what ever that means. Gvozdyk for example has more skills, he just wasn't as durable or despite being a punch could hurt Beterbiev.

    Really big and durable punchers in the upper weights to be considered to have pound for pound skills need to show a dominant jab, good defense, top mobility, speed, ect...

    Beterbiev to me has great power, determination, very good durability, and good, but not great skills and accuracy.

    He's got a light out uppercut, a powerful right hand, and hammer like blows to the body. But very fast handed, or a skilled jabber he is not.

    Yes, the winner of Prograis vs Taylor should be on the list.

    I'm not really much of a pound for pound guy. And to Crawford can you fight someone really good already?

    If there was such as thing as toughest to beat list, he'd be on that one.
     
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  10. Serge

    Serge Vampire Slayer Staff Member

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    Sorry, I missed this

    :lol: Sincerest condolences to you for being cursed with the Ginger gene. Just make sure you always wear protection and if anything goes wrong pray it's a girl.
     
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  11. Boxingfan200

    Boxingfan200 USYK #1 P4P Full Member

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    Crawford needs to fight Thurman,garcia,spence manny or porter.. atleast 2 of them.. and if he doesn't fight any of them soon he deserves to be dropped from top 10.
     


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