Beterbiev is unbeatable

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  1. Reg

    Reg Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Mayweather struggled against Castillo but he still went 15 more years undefeated.
     
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  2. boxingexpert733

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    most common media scorecard is 7-5 bivol
     
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  3. MorvidusStyle

    MorvidusStyle Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I think with a perfect PED-testing system, he would struggle to have 'abnormal levels of testosterone and HGH' for a 39/40 year old man and therefore could be beaten by someone like Bivol and likely other skilled boxers much younger.

    Isn't it remarkable that boxing is a sport where apparently it's normal for men around 40 or even older to not only be competitive with males 20-34, but actually be ON TOP of the sport. And we're talking about a highly physically demanding sport with massive cardio requirements.

    There's nothing else like this.
    In tennis, you have the best players of all time struggling to stay on top in their mid 30s and by late 30s they are retired or just hoping to sneak a another big tournament win, no longer hoping to be no.1. And there is PED use there too. But it just shows the extreme PED use in boxing.
     
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  4. chacal

    chacal F*** the new normal Full Member

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    You didnt check boxrec properly then.

    What boxrec says is that bivol won (fans and pro-scorers scorecards) but the 3 judges robbed him.
    https://boxrec.com/en/scoring/3213264

    As bandeedo has stated destroying this thread in the first comment, beterbiev is not unbeatable because he has already been beaten.
     
  5. UniversalPart

    UniversalPart Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

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    This is all assuming that Bivol is squeaking clean?
     
  6. MaccaveliMacc

    MaccaveliMacc Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Fan scorecard is 115-114 Beterbiev, so you done messed up pal.
     
  7. chacal

    chacal F*** the new normal Full Member

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    You should learn to read before writing. I don't know where did you get that 115-114, maybe you dreamt it, I dont care, tbh.
    https://boxrec.com/en/scoring/3213264
    In boxrec fans are 113.79 -113.83 and bivol wins close. Pro scorers have 112 -116 with a clear bivol victory, way more similar to what actually happened and proving that fans are only a herd of nuthuggers who cant score for ****. And even that herd of stupids realized that the beterbiev didnt win.

    So no, beterbiev is not unbeatable because he has already been beaten. Allahu akbar
     
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  8. Banana-Rama

    Banana-Rama Active Member Full Member

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    Those fan averages have Beterbiev winning rounds 4, 5, 6, 7, 10, 11, 12
     
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  9. Charlie_Dude

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    Not sure how you can post that when he's just had a razor-thin UD decision over Bivol (A fight many he thought he lost, not me, but many did)

    It'd be hard for a guy, who mainly relies on technique, to beat him AB. AB will walk through you and cut off the ring.

    The fighter to beat AB would be someone like a Triple G for the LHW. A strong, massive puncher with a rock solid chin who can fight 12 hard rounds and not wilt. They need not be skilful, just someone who can match his physical strength.
    You have to punch AB really hard to the point where you discourage him to even think of attacking.

    AB is also lucky because he's in an era where there ain't any great black American LHW fighters. I don't see AB being undefeated if he had to face Toney, Spinks, Foster, Ward, Tarver, B-Hopkins, RJJ....or even white guy Joe Calzaghe.
     
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  10. UnleashtheFURY

    UnleashtheFURY D'oh! Full Member

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    Boxrec has the result recorded as a majority decision man. Go check again.
     
  11. chacal

    chacal F*** the new normal Full Member

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    Boxrec has pro-scorers scoring a very clear bivol victory, fans scoring a very close bivol victory and 3 judges robbinng bivol scoring nonsense.
    You have the link here, man https://boxrec.com/en/scoring/3213264
    learn to read if you cant understan it
     
  12. UnleashtheFURY

    UnleashtheFURY D'oh! Full Member

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    You're entitled to your opinion and entitled to seek comfort by finding other people who agree with you. But yeah Boxrec has the result recorded as a MD for Beterbiev. It is what It is man.
     
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  13. Banana-Rama

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    No they don't. Bivol having a slightly higher total is just a quirk of how boxrec decided to present the scorecards. Fights are not scored like that.
     
  14. chacal

    chacal F*** the new normal Full Member

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    I'm not giving my opinion. I'm stating a fact. Boxrec has fans scoring a close fight for bivol (at best a draw), it has pro-scores scoring a very clear bivol's victory and 3 judges scoring stupid cards.

    You want to say "official cards" have it for beterbiev, go and say it, but don't say boxrec have it for beterbiev because it doesn't.

    Nevertheless, yesterday's judges had caterall winning all the rounds. Official cards many times are not better than toilette paper. And beterbiev is not unbeatable because he has already been beaten.
     
  15. UnleashtheFURY

    UnleashtheFURY D'oh! Full Member

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    Yes you are.
     
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