Better defense, Eddie Chambers, or David Haye.............

Valuev is slow as hell.

I would address these points, but If you think Haye has a great defense then I will leave it there.

 

Please tell me why you think Adamek would be able to knock Chambers out when Povetkin couldn't do it. I want to know.

 

Sorry, but a Nazim trained Cunningham would make Chambers look average.

 

It's possible that Chambers could survive against Adamek, but what gives you the impression that Povetkin is a big puncher?

He's not a big puncher, he's a pressure figther that wears guys down with volume. Was it his knocking out of that fat mexican guy that got beat even faster by Ibriganov the reason why you think he's a big puncher?

Also Adamek is more mobile, is a sharper puncher, and has a higher IQ than Povetkin which would allow him to possibly land something Chambers didn't see.

Either way, I think it's clear that Adamek would win this fight.

 

Does this fat ***** not claim to work for the Klits? In my opinion that makes his cheerleading kind of pointless. Klit fanatics are one thing, but paid employees are even more pathetic. He's an internet kiss-ass. Weak.

 

The Wlad fanatic definition of crazy:

- Saying Wlad is not a top 10 ATG.
- Saying Wlad was prime before the age of 34
- Saying Wlad's losses are in any way significant and have an impact on his legacy.
- Saying Vitali is the good Klit
- Saying Wlad has a poor resume
- Calling blind fanatics ****s after the 5th time they repeat the same bogus argument.
- Any other statement that makes it harder to masturbate to Wlad.

Great post. I agree that he's found the best way to take a high volume of shots without using any real movement, but in my opinion the ropeless rope-a-dope is not a great defense. Against a fast guy who steps into his punches he'd get hurt with it. Also, I think you could quite easily destroy him with body punches.

Much like Clottey, I think his lack of counterpunching makes it all kind of pointless. I'd say you need to have a defense that you can punch out of effectively. When you add in that he has no power it makes his defensive strategy very poor imo.

In all honesty I find it hard to respect guys like him who consistently come out-of-shape and have no real game-plan. I think there is a real culture on ESB of trying to build up any HW not called David Haye. For people to say that Valuev is an irrelevant opponent but then say Peter and Demitrenko are bench-marks seems weird to me. I think Eddie proved his defensive skills against Wlad. Hopefully Haye will do the same soon and I expect him to do much better.

Eddie is a HW because he is fat. He couldn't make CW cos he clearly lacks the discipline to do it. He'd still be fat but totally weight drained if he attempted it. Also, he wouldn't have enough speed or power to be effective at that weight. He's got decent hands for a heavy, not for a cruiser. This is the problem for many of today's HWs.

 

Chambers is **** and Haye is good. Why bother discussing it? Next you ask who hits hard Calzaghe or Allan Green...

 

So, now explain to me where you read me say I thought Povetkin is a big puncher. I'll wait for that now. No, it's not clear that Adamek would win a fight with Chambers either. Chambers is a more proven heavyweight.

 

haye moves better and has a way better chance of beating wlad due to his offensive ability and power but chambers is by far the better defensive fighter. if eddie fought at cruiser with his skill set he'd own it.