Better defense Pernell Whitaker or Floyd Mayweather

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  1. elmaldito

    elmaldito Skillz Full Member

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    whitaker slips better and uses his legs better. Mayweather shells up.
     
  2. Shadow Brawler

    Shadow Brawler New Member Full Member

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    Prime Roy Jones Jr had the best defense and offense. Nobody has a better highlight reel. Tarvers one punch KO is what ended it all. I tip my hat to Sweet Pea he faced way better competition than Roy and Floyd.
     
  3. platnumpapi

    platnumpapi Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    mayweather is the hardest fighter to hit this generation and has the best statistical percentages in c.box. whitaker at 35 was getting hit alot as well, infact whitaker talks slurrish because of the damage he took late in the career.he was a beast in his prime but passed prime he got hit alot.

    not always how you start your career but as well as how you Finnish it as well. so far money will end it like he started hardly touched in the ring.
     
  4. slantone

    slantone Ring General Full Member

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    Whitaker but if I had to choose a style to have I'd take the Floyd shoulder roll. Extremely efficient and conserves energy while expending a lot of the other mans . Pea made them miss by much more, but used so much movement and energy whilsT Floyd's technique I think will be effective for as long as he fights. Resume v resume , pea. Style v style , money. Overall, pea. Both awesome and best I've ever seen.

    Alot of people at the gym want to do the shoulder roll cos of Floyd, then they curl up and get popped with three straight rights and realize how hard it is to do, to not flinch and blink when ur that close to a guys fist and just flow with their movement. It's an amazing thing. Peas also was supernatural , like some matrix **** , his ability to bend at the waist and see a shot coming before the other man even thought about the shot.
     
  5. KnuckleUp99

    KnuckleUp99 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    i gotta go with my man Sweet Pea.....just an incredible defensive wizard...natural instincts and great reflexes....not the fast guy in the world but he had a knack for anticipating punches and waiting until the last possible millisecond to get out of the way.
     
  6. Outboxer

    Outboxer Boxing Addict Full Member

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    It's hard to say. They're both excellent. I think Mayweather gets hit less, but he was also less active in regard to workrate...the more you open up, the more chance you will get hit. Whitaker had an unusually high workrate for a defensive fighter. Whitaker also proved the quality of his defence against Chavez, who is a better name than anyone on Mayweather's record. A young, prime De La Hoya also struggled to land on Whitaker, even when he threw over five punch combinations.

    That being said, I think prime Mayweather's defence might be more efficient, as he rarely ever got hit with flush shots, or even just clipping, messy punches. He just picked them off with his shoulder-roll or high guard, and no one (aside from Castillo) was able to consistently get through. (Even Castillo didn't really get through with many clean shots.)

    Mayweather is more linear and predictable than Whitaker. He uses the same defensive rolling motions, and you know he's going to use his pull-counter, his right hand lead, etc. You can predict what he's going to do, but he's so quick, and his technique is so effective, that it doesn't matter. He can do the same thing over and over and get away with it. Whitaker, on the other hand, has a really different quality to his style -- it feels like he's much more spontaneous, and constantly improvising. If Mayweather is a straight-laced businessman in the ring, Whitaker is a dancer. He seems more fluid and does things to enjoy himself in the ring, even if it opens him up to getting hit. He'll run around with his back turned, sit down in the corner and wiggle away from shots, put his hands down in the middle of the ring and twist his upper body to avoid punches, etc. He also had better movement around the ring than Mayweather. Mayweather is better at rolling shots with his shoulder and forearm, while Whitaker is better at slipping.
     
  7. Slacker

    Slacker Big & Slow Full Member

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    :thumbsup

    Plus Pernell had more power, was a good finisher and was a lot more entertaining to watch.
     
  8. KnuckleUp99

    KnuckleUp99 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    :patsch More entertaining....absolutely but had more power?:rofl
     
  9. HellSpawn86

    HellSpawn86 "My heart goes out to you!" Full Member

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    Whitaker might be slurring because of prior drug use.
     
  10. jso416

    jso416 F U Nutthuggers!!! Full Member

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    Yep
     
  11. ricardinho

    ricardinho Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I think Floyd's is better as his defense is integrated into his offense;whereas, Pernell runs and evades.
     
  12. Slacker

    Slacker Big & Slow Full Member

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    Whitaker was a better finisher, for sure. If you were hurt, he was on you like stink on ****. Plus he had one punch KO power, which I've only seen Floyd use once (against Hatton).

    :patsch Watch some videos instead of getting your info from boxrec. :rofl

    [ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rw1t2yAK_wU&list=PL75F4FC759C7A0D82&index=5&feature=plpp_video[/ame]
     
  13. tliang1000

    tliang1000 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Mayweather by far. He got a multi layered defense. Philly shell, conventional, great smothering, and clinch. Footwork, upper body and sharp counters.

    Whitaker relies mostly ducks and upper body movement counters. Plus Mayweather got whitaker beat by stats by a long shot.
     
  14. hookfromhell

    hookfromhell Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Lol? ****ing ******. Roger mayweather ok, but Whitaker
    won that fight, and as a prime lightweight proved his
    defense against much better opposition. You couldn't
    hit this guy. Look at what castillo did to mayweather.
    If they fought prime for prime, whitaker would embarrass
    money, and make him look stupid. Mayweather got clocked against a shot
    Mosley. Whitaker had superior defense.
     
  15. tliang1000

    tliang1000 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Wait so u gonna defense whitaker saying he is not in prime but then uses a fight where floyd was injured as a measuring stick?