Better top 5 wins? Mayweather or Ward?

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  1. tinman

    tinman Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    For Ward

    1. Kovalev (slightly past prime in rematch)
    2. Kessler
    3. Froch
    4. Barrera
    5. Abraham

    Honorable Mentions: Dawson (walking corpse), Miranda

    For Mayweather

    1. Castillo
    2. Corrales
    3. Hatton
    4. Canelo (green version)
    5. DLH (solidly past prime)

    Honorable mentions: Pacquiao (solidly past prime), Mosley (Solidly past prime), Hernandez

    Dare I say Ward has the better collection of wins. And has by far the best single win and it's not even remotely close. Say you want about Ward, a little bit dirty, not the most exciting. But the last thing he ever did was duck somebody or wait until they were way over the hill.
     
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  2. dinovelvet

    dinovelvet Antifanboi Full Member

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    Pacquiao is a greater win than Hatton.
     
  3. shanahan14

    shanahan14 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    If you are talking totality of the circumstances (i.e. prime, name, skill, streak) I don't think Canelo should even be on this list. He was a green fighter and weight drained. He had a tough fight with Trout right before and lost to Lara less than a year later. Yes, I hate Canelo, but I wouldn't put that in Floyd's top 5 wins based on where he was at that point.

    Pacman should be on there because he is still a top fighter, even though he was injured.
     
  4. HerolGee

    HerolGee Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    mayweather is ahead for sure, but not by much.

    If ward made the same kind of comebacks he could pip money.
     
  5. George Crowcroft

    George Crowcroft Youngest Ezzard Charles Fan Ever Full Member

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    Your top 5 Mayweather wins are mad

    But either way Mayweather by quite a distance.
     
  6. NoNeck

    NoNeck Pugilist Specialist Full Member

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    Canelo>Kovalev II
    Pac>Kovalev I, due to manner of victory
    Corrales>Kessler
    Castillo>Froch
    And about ten wins ahead of whatever else Ward has.
     
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  7. tinman

    tinman Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    This isnt about who is the greater fighter. Its about the top 5 best wins.
     
  8. 22JM

    22JM Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Mayweather easy win against Pacquiao should be better than any of Ward's wins.
     
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  9. George Crowcroft

    George Crowcroft Youngest Ezzard Charles Fan Ever Full Member

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    I'm aware. It's Mayweather by a fairly wide distance
     
  10. tinman

    tinman Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Then do their top 5 wins. And don't ignore how past prime the majority of Floyd's opposition was.
     
  11. HerolGee

    HerolGee Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    they both had same number of elites, 4 or 5, but money has 2 post prime atgs too
     
  12. George Crowcroft

    George Crowcroft Youngest Ezzard Charles Fan Ever Full Member

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    Sure

    Pacquiao, completely career defining and given what he's doing now it's still an good win. It's number top 5 due to the size of the fight.
    Corrales, He schooled an undefeated Champion in his prime and knocked him down 5 times.
    Canelo, he beat a defending champion coming off his best win at the time who would go on to be pfp top 3.
    Maidana 2, clearly won and corrected his wrongs and cleared up controversy from the first fight.
    Castillo 2, less clear than Maidana but still corrected the first fight


    That's better than Kovalev 1&2, Froch, Kessler and Abraham. Especially when you consider that both the Kovalev fights were very controversial and Abraham was very inconsistent at SMW and really a natural MW.
     
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  13. NoNeck

    NoNeck Pugilist Specialist Full Member

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    Maidana II is nowhere near a top 5 Mayweather win. It’s not even close to Cotto, Hatton, Oscar, and Shane.
     
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  14. George Crowcroft

    George Crowcroft Youngest Ezzard Charles Fan Ever Full Member

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    It cleared the controversy of the first fight.

    Hatton was at 147, he definitely wasn't at his best and it showed. He was also a very easy style for Mayweather

    Mosley and Del a Hoya were middle-aged

    I considered Cotto but he had seen better days by that point.
     
  15. acie2g

    acie2g Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Manny Pacquiao just beat the #1 WW in Keith Thurman....Pacquiao is a better win than anything on Wards resume...
    Just at 130 Corrales P4P rated IBF Champ before and won titles at SFW & LW after ,G.Hernandez best SFW of the 90's ,C.Hernandez a future IBF 130 Champ, J.Chavez a future WBC 130 Champ.

    Are comparable to some guys best wins including Ward
     
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