Better Win: Mayweather against Mosley or Pacquiao Against Dela Hoya?

The DLH that PAcquiao fought loses to Margarito regardless, so again your line of reasoning is terrible lol.

 

The same Margarito who you refer to as nothing special to begin with and was just caught trying to cheat. Yeah, that Margarito was really 100% mentally prepared for that fight, which took place 17 months prior which gave Mosley the needed ring exposure at age 38. Same Mosley that couldn't beat Mora 4 months later. :yep

 

Meaningless. that Margarito kills the weigh drained ghost that Pacquiao fought.

Meaningless. Mosley destroys Margarito if he had fought him a month after beating Cotto. Please, I know you *******s dont understand boxing well, but please tell me in your strategic thinking tiny ******* mind how Margarito beats Mosley even with brick gloves when he could hardly lay a hand on him in the real fight. Honestly I wanna hear this.

Mayweather had fought once in 2 years and he's damn near 34. Mosley had been sparring numerous rounds against quality boxers, and had been preparing to fight. Sorry that excuse really doesnt fly. Its not like he was fighting at a weight class he never fought at in 10 years and needed IV's. :rofl

Mora beat Vernon Forrest who is the only fighter to KD Mosley. Mosley was not only fighting at a wieght he's never been good at 154, but Mora came in as a middleweight, so he was fighting a guy bigger then him who didnt want to engage.

Again this is where your lack of boxing knowledge comes into play again. Most thought that this fight was a toss up based on these factors.

 

Pac against DLH. It is a personal vendetta by DLH when Pac reneged on his promotions deal with GBP.

Before the fight:

"It's very personal for me," De La Hoya said. "That moment there is what makes it personal, because I don't want him to be talking about honor and how he's honorable and this and that. No, he didn't honor me that night, so I'm not going to honor him come [Saturday]."

After the fight:

"Pacquiao is good, there’s no doubt about it,” De La Hoya said. “And he’s fast. I thought there were 10 of him in there. I’m looking here and he’s over there. And I’m reacting to a punch from this way and there’s another coming at me from that way. - Oscar De La Hoya 9/16/09

 

18 out of the 20 experts questioned by The Ring magazine picked Oscar to beat Pac.

Then Pac won every minute of every round against him.

And then no-one attached any value whatsoever to the win.

As I've said before, it's probably the only time in boxing history where a guy has been so insanely favoured to win, but then his conqueror has been refused any sort of credit for upsetting the odds.


I myself don't value it all that highly, not anywhere close to Manny's wins over Cotto or Barrera etc, but I still think his performance in that fight is sorely overlooked by most.

Considering how old and tired Shane looked vs Floyd, then considering how old and tired Shane looked vs Mora, I honestly think Asero is posing a legitimate question now. Whether you think Floyd's win is better or not now, this is a valid question now.

Other than Shane landing a couple of big shots in round 2 vs Floyd, what exactly did he do in that fight that Oscar didn't do vs Pac? It seems to me the real differences between the two fights was that Pac stuck to his cautious yet aggressive gameplan better than Floyd did (ie because PBF got caught by big shots and Pac did not), but Manny pushed for the stoppage whereas Floyd did not. Oscar was weight-drained, but by the same token Shane's age and inactivity had clearly seen him lose his stamina and suffer serious all-round physical decline.

 

mayweather over sugar shane

 

Such a great win for Floyd over Mosley would for sure had The Ring Magazine (owned by Floyd's then promoter) put Floyd back at #1 P4P...:think

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• 1. Manny Pacquiao
  
  
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• 2. Floyd Mayweather Jr.

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Meaningless, nobody knew Oscar would come into the ring at 145 and need IV's as has been stated ad nauseum.

Shane threw more punches in the last 4 rounds then the first 4 rounds.
but Manny pushed for the stoppage whereas Floyd did not. Oscar was weight-drained, but by the same token Shane's age and inactivity had clearly seen him lose his stamina and suffer serious all-round physical decline.[/quote]
How did he lose his stamina when he threw more punches in the last 4 rounds then the first 4 rounds? Mosley was welterweight champ. What was DLH champ of? Beating a lightweight in stevie forbes and getting busted up doing it? Getting beat up in sparring by Valero? Needing IV's before a fight?

 

Lmfao..

Oscar wasn't even ranked IN THE PAST 4 YEARS LB 4 LB BEFORE HE FOUGHT PAC..

Shane was ranked over everyone in the world not named mayweather or pacquiao at the time..(NUMBER 3 IN THE WORLD)

End thread next

ALL THIS TALK ABOUT "OLD" AND IT MAKES IT LESS OF A WIN IS STUPID..IF THATS THE CASE THAN WHY AREN'T ALL THE YOUNGER FIGHTERS COMIN UP ON EM..

 

Oscar beat the crap out of Void. Void stopped Oscar, Cotto, Hatton in the second round, etc.

Void claims that his beat win was the woman he beat up!

 

I am stunned more people have voted Pac vs. De La Hoya. Absolutely stunned. I'm a Pacman fan as much as the next guy but if you can't give May credit for beating Mosley over Pac beating De La Hoya, your fandom has reached a dangerous level.

 

It's been explained but for some reason it goes over some people's heads.

Let's skip all the excused for a second;

Bottom line:
FLoyd beat a guy he was supposed to beat.
Pac obliterated a guy he was supposed to lose to.

Easy enough:good

 

NAHHHHHH.NOT REALLY

AGAIN..SHANE WAS THE BEST FIGHTER IN THE WORLD NOT NAMED MAYWEATHER OR PACQUIAO..

OSCAR HAD NOT TOUCHED THE TOP 10 LB 4 LB IN THE LAST 4-6 YEARS PRIOR...

NOT EVEN CLOSE..ONE GUY IS FIGHTING A SKELETON WHILE THE OTHER GUY IS FIGHTING THE 3RD RANKED FIGHTER IN THE WORLD REGARDLESS OF AGE...PLUS A VERY DANGEROUS FIGHTER IN SHANE TOO.

*******S ARE JOKES OF POSTERS:rofl:rofl DONT KNOW MUCH ABOUT LOGIC....

BOTTOM LINE WOULD BE SOMETHING LIKE "SHANE MOSLEY RANKED #3 IN THE WORLD" ..THATS MORE ALONG THE LINE OF A "BOTTOM LINE".

OSCAR WASN'T RANKED AT ALL IN PREVIOUS YEARS...BEST FIGHT WAS THE FLOYD FIGHT WHICH HE WAS THE 1 GUY AT 154 AT THE TIME

 

Using your logic then Marquez is Mayweather's best win at WW because he was the p4p#2 when they fought. And of course he was p4p #2 regardless of AGE and WEIGHT :rofl:rofl.

 

Can you try it without the screaming:blood