Big Daddy Avid's Smigga Thread

where is avid and diggs , dont know as much as they say they do

 

that was a peach of a shot and i thought it hurt smith with it

 

avid has a life outside of esb. What do you mean dont know as much as we say we do?
I saw the fight live, and to be fair, i saw dodson land a couple of decent full blown shots that smith took well. Smigga was far more active, and accurate than dodson, there is absolutely no way anyone could ever say the point deduction swayed it for smith, coz if you do then whoever thinks this iwas watching a diffrerent fight.
I saw the fight 116-112. Smigga buzzed dodson a lot in this fight, and what was different in this fight was when dodson looked like he might be making a bid to come back into the fight, smigga stepped up his game, became moreactive, rather than switch off. This was the key to the victory for him.
Smigga showed his true warrior instincts by fighting on despite the cut. Whatever the ref said after the fight is irrelevant, the cuts were bad, undoubtedly painfull, and obviously the blood flow did not help.
If i have a criticism then it would be i would like to see more variety in smigga's attack. He used to switch head to body very well earlier i his career. He needs to bring this back to do well at a higher level.
He has now done what people said he hadn't, which was fight a full blown SMW, not a blown up LMW that people said quigley was. He coped, and looked strong, and in no danger of gassing on the stretch. He has shown his worth now as british champion.
In terms of the future, i would like to see smigga win the lonsdale outright, then challenge for euro, and then we can decide if he can cut the mustard at some version of world level.
I know there are many people who think stieglitz would dispatch smith with ease. Maybe he would maybe he wouldn't. But we are going to get to a point soon where we will have to find out, as if he successfully defends the lonsdale, and fights for the euro, and wins, that is the direction he will need to go.
All i would say to people right now is respect him for what he is right now, and keep the jury out until he has fought for the euro. IF he beats magee (and it would be difficult), then we can start talking about smigga as a real potential world contender.
I have to have one word about dodson. As much as i respect him as a fighter, i could not respect what he did in the ring. Holding; although smigga does this sometimes, i would say that in most clinches, you can see smigga rasing his arms as a signal that he i not holding, and wantsout of the clinch to continue throwing leather.
The other thing is ducking down/use of head; this was so baltant all throughout the fight, i can only assume this was dodsons tactic to smother and stall smigga's work, coming in, and on the inside. It did not show me anything like the warrior type performance we were told to expect from dodson.
Nuff said

 

Keep Smith away from counter punchers with quick hands...fortunately there aren't that many at SMW in England but there are plenty out there at 'world' level, which is where he says he wants to be.

I've got nothing against him, but I've seen him live maybe half a dozen times and every time, it's the same. Too much leading in with the head, telegraphs the big right hand every single time and no variety. He runs out of ideas when he doesn't fight someone who will just stand in front of him and trade. You can see him get visibly frustrated...

Heart and guts will only get you so far and I don't see what he has in his armoury to suggest he's going to step up to the next level...

I think Stephen Smith has far more potential and natural ability :good

 

defo 1 for the future:thumbsup

 

listen mate it is banter .you give it so you have to take . nothing personal. and of course your opinion not a problem ,i have talked to a lot of people since friday night and it is not as you say but then it comes down to opinions. i am not stating anything about who should of won lost whatever
but the cuts to paul that was 50/50 no one to blame its part of the job so lets no go their on that one. you say you was their so was another 8000 fans or so and we did talk to a handful of smith fans (great lads ) before and after and most were a little pissed off over payin the cost of the tickets and gettin a scrappy fight just like the quigley fight.they said they wont be doing it again but hey their you go , you stated for months paul was going to ko tony well i was their too and i seen nothing that worried tony personally. i think it was much closer than the cards. as for tonys tactics who was it who told you what he was bringing because the way i see it paul himself was not exacly the full deal himself .

 

felt smith's body work started to get to dodson towards the end of the fight which is why he was holding more than earlier in the fight but granted smith was a lil guilty of that aswell. its hard to look good when so much holding is going on.:thumbsup

 

I am not getting at anyone personally, as you say just putting my own personal opinion across. I accept everyone will have their own opinion re how the fight went, and point scoring etc. I am not saying that it was a classic, or that it makes smigga a world beater because he beat dodson. The end of the day, he beat in dodson a fighter who wanted to defend hold, and bore in with his head all night, if people can't see that was what he was doing, then not my problem, because it is what happened. I did say paul would KO tony, and i was wrong about that. Fair cop you have got me on that one! :good
No one told us anything about tony's tactics. He said he was the warrior, and would take paul into the trenches, and would not be able to cope now, as he was in with a full blown SMW and he wouldn't be able to cope. My point to all of that is, well paul did cope. And he did as much as you can with a man who did not want to fight, for wathever reason.
I have previously made the point re kell brooks fight. It was a lot worse than the smith fight, it didn't make brook look great, the fight was stopped preaturely in my opinion, but what do you do with a man who held for large parts of the fight, and ducked down. TBF he should have had the point taken earlier. I don;t see brook getting slated for HIS fight.

I just think that there are people who just don't like smith. I accept that, as there are many fighters i don't like, but i am level headed enough to call a book a book, if dodson had won, i would have come on here saying fair enough. But people coming on here saying it was closer than it was, well it's not on.
Paul has proved he is a worhty champion in beating a man, a LOT of people on here thought he wouldn't beat.
What we don;t know is how he will cope when he is inevitably stepped up, most likely against magee next.
But until any of that stuff is decided, let's have it straight, Smigga put a few things straight the other night
1. he dealt with a "proper" SMW.
2. He beat him
3. He had to dig deep, as some people say he hasn't before.
Let's give the man some RESPECT.

 

I wonder if the early head clashes affected the phsyche of the boxers? As I said in an earlier post, I feel the cuts that Smith sustained could just have easily been suffered by Dodson. This was the bit of luck he received in the fight.

Obviously, if you're Tony Dodson you don't wanna be on the wrong end of a 50/50 head clash, cos we know his history with cuts. Also, if you're Paul Smith, you don't want any further damage to an already messy couple of cuts.

I'm just guessing that this may have been on their minds as the fight wore on, as I personally blame them equally for the holding and maybe they would argue they had good reason.

 

respect:thumbsup

 

Agreed. Begrudgingly. :shock:

 

Quality lads, especially you scouse!! :good

 

oh rite. cheers mate:yep

 

That was just based on his doson stance, goes without saying with you LP!!!:good

 

better:hey:good