I beleive Sven Ottke was just awful, a running away poke you one shot at a time fighter, with very weak power, he fought nobody great and when he did fight someone who was any good he made sure that he was fighting in front of biased judges who would definetly score the fight his way. See the Robin Reid fight, it's one of the worst robberys in modern boxing.
Bernard Hopkins has wins over what great fighters? If Bernard is great, remember a past his prime Joe beat Bernard in Vegas.
Willard - A man 65lbs heavier than him, destroyer of Jack Johnson, and a boxer who had actually KILLED a couple of guys in the ring. I dare you to get in with a man who has killed men with his fists. Firpo - A wild swinging KO-artist who had thunderous power in both fists. Carpentier - A master boxer of his time, a man who was good enough to blast out most other fighters in the heavyweight division. but he was much much smaller. thats why he's jointly placed with: Gibbons: A very good boxer, with movement, crisp, accurate punching, and a stout chin. Hall of fame fighter. He beat the best of his era, and to here a keyboard warrior such as yourself disrespect a man who grew up in a VERY tough america, closer to the frontier times of the old west, with its lawlessness and violence, quite frankly makes me sad, you clearly have no idea or knowledge about the man.