Biggest myth in Boxing

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  1. TBooze

    TBooze Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Well the biggest one would be that he was undefeated post March 1947;)
     
  2. Dempsey1238

    Dempsey1238 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    As a pro he was.
     
  3. Ted Spoon

    Ted Spoon Boxing Addict Full Member

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    The biggest myth in boxing is the projected theory of circa 1960 + superiority in fighters; physically and technically.
     
  4. TBooze

    TBooze Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Depends what standard you use, as a paid fighter he lost and after his official pro debut he lost...
     
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    Dempsey1238 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Come on now, ATMS get paid also. It was very comman back in thsos days. You think Louis complete in the ATM golden gloves for free??
     
  6. TBooze

    TBooze Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Louis never claimed to beat undefeated at the end of his career...
     
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    Dempsey1238 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Because he LOST as a pro to Schemling, Charles and of couse Marciano.
    Marciano never had that happen in a PRO fight. With Pro rules and status.
     
  8. McGrain

    McGrain Diamond Dog Staff Member

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    As you say.

    :good
     
  9. TBooze

    TBooze Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Like I said, it depends what standards you use, a lot of the aura around Marciano is that '0', and the dictionary definition for Professional is:

    Following an occupation as a means of livelihood or for gain

    Playing Devil's Advocate, Marciano did gain financially in fights that he lost, there is little disputing that.

    Guess it depends how you spin it.;)
     
  10. mochabuzz

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    Biggest Myth:
    That a young ali (62-67) was a better fighter than the 1971 version.
     
  11. McGrain

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    Well I wouldn't mind hearing about why where this one is concerned.
     
  12. mochabuzz

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    WTF? :huh
     
  13. McGrain

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    I would like to hear why the idea that '67 Ali is better than '71 Ali is a myth.
     
  14. OLD FOGEY

    OLD FOGEY Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Pay is not the standard. The standard is it a professional or amateur fight under professional or amateur rules.
     
  15. mochabuzz

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    Experience and ring-smarts outweigh youth/speed. Simply put, he was a much smarter fighter when he was older than when he was 24, 25..
    Ali was a lot more calm and strategic in his comeback fights against Quarry & Bonavena... He showed real patience, maturity and durability in both of those fights. That is why i was so shocked when Frazier beat him in 1971.

    Youth & speed are so so overrated... just look at B-Hop! He no where near as quick & agile as he used to be, but he is still on the top of his game b/c he has so much experience & patience in the ring.