Billy Joe Saunders vs. Demetrius Cesar Andrade - OFF!!!!!!

Don't worry, I'll be here with bells on! As Saunders co-No. 1 fanboy, @lepinthehood the other, there's no chance I'll miss his official P4P coming out party.

 

No one is rating him based on his win over Lemieux. Its his resume as a whole, which at this point is probably the second best at Middleweight behind GGG. Most of his hypers myself included said he was P4P material, especially if he could get his kinks worked out, like coasting and his stamina issues, there's a reason he was one of the first 5 Educate Yourselves threads I did along with Usyk and Gvozdyk. So when he finally ironed out those two flaws in the Monroe and Lemieux matches, we viewed him as the beast we've always expected him to become.

For the 7 (I scored 8) rounds he won off of CEJ before gassing, he looked far superior than Groves did in every round of his fight with Jr. He beat Monroe with relative ease, didn't even have to get out of second gear, and this is a guy who schooled Thompson far more impressively than Liam Smith, who'd lost every round except for the one he KO'd him in, Monroe also beat Rosado more impressively than Murray, and Love who should have lost to him, and arguably even Charlo. BJS outboxed Lee with ease, in spite of the people thinking it was close, it wasn't, no one had ever done that to Lee, not even Quillin or Chavez in their winning efforts, up to that point the only way to beat Lee was by KO, Lee isn't easy to outbox at all. He beat Blandamura more impressively than Murata, Spike and Ryder are two vastly underrated scalps, their resumes continue to improve since their loss to him. Saunders even managed to beat Lemieux IMO more impressively than GGG sans the KO. But let's be honest, he could have scored the TKO had he pressed for it, he had Lemieux ready to go, but just like Mayweather and Ward, he chose caution as opposed to risking it all for a KO.

 

As a fanboy of Lee, I do rate him, always have, just because someone takes an L doesn't mean they're not top notch, and that was an impressive win, how exactly is losing to the best Super Middleweight on the planet being exposed exactly? I predicted Groves would beat him with ease, because Groves is ridiculously underrated, CEJ while I hate him personally, going into the Groves fight, had a fairly terrific resume at SMW and MW at that point. He didn't struggle with Monroe very much, and the last time I checked, wasn't everyone applauding the efforts of Willie against GGG? Didn't Monroe "expose" his weakness? As far s your criticism go, judge him based on what he did when he wasn't gassing, now that he's gotten than issue taken care of, Dominic Ingle has perfected what was already near top notch.

 

I couldn't disagree more with everything you said. But fine. Saunders late TKO, Andrade is far more fragile than most seem to think, he's one of those guys that you can see the terror in his eyes when he gets tagged by even moderate punchers, he's cautious because he has to be, its out of necessity, and Saunders will find openings than the more rudimentary fighters Andrade has fought couldn't. He'll unravel fairly quickly, it'll look like Quillin vs. Love, I think Boo Boo is that mentally fragile.

 

Maybe to begin with, but I doubt it, it'll get increasingly one sided as it continues. For the record, while I think Saunders does have deceptive power, its Andrade's chin that I don't rate, and if you have shaky whiskers, Saunders has enough pop to put a dent in them, and since BJS will probably and more on Andrade than most, I think it will give way at some point.

 

I'm the co-captain of that club myself, or at the very least a long time member. In fact, I was just trying to convince ellerbe about 2 hours ago that Saunders was gong to KO Boo Boo. He didn't buy it, can't wait for his shocked reaction.