Bivol made a big mistake

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by Sheikh, Jun 24, 2023.

  1. C.J.

    C.J. Boxings Living Legend revered & respected by all Full Member

    Joined:
    Apr 14, 2009
    Messages:
    46,772
    Likes Received:
    15,917
    Ginger screwed up & got his butt spanked by the better man didn't he lol
     
  2. acie2g

    acie2g Boxing Junkie Full Member

    Joined:
    Jul 21, 2010
    Messages:
    8,738
    Likes Received:
    1,302

    Bro the WBC said they weren’t sanctioning Russian fighters before Canelo even fought Bivol, and how is Canelo draining a career 175 guy down to 168 showing fortitude and how is Bivol moving down to fight a smaller fighter him being great?? Greatness is Canelo moving up to 175 and fighting Kovalev and Bivol while Bivol a career 175 guy hasn’t attempted to fight Kovalev or Beterbiev
     
  3. ElCyclon

    ElCyclon Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

    Joined:
    Dec 2, 2012
    Messages:
    22,790
    Likes Received:
    14,482

    You got CDS and you got it bad. Get yourself checked.
     
  4. Maidanas Gun Tattoo

    Maidanas Gun Tattoo Well-Known Member Full Member

    Joined:
    Sep 29, 2017
    Messages:
    2,424
    Likes Received:
    2,667
    Things that I don’t care about as a man and a boxing fan, how much another person makes. Bivol did the right thing for him.
     
  5. elmaldito

    elmaldito Skillz Full Member

    Joined:
    Jun 11, 2009
    Messages:
    22,887
    Likes Received:
    6,547
    shut conelo out
     
  6. Hanz Cholo

    Hanz Cholo Boxing Junkie Full Member

    Joined:
    Jul 11, 2012
    Messages:
    14,521
    Likes Received:
    11,331
    the terms were you walk out 1st even though Bivol is the Champ & Canelo the challenger
    (Mad disrespectful… but whatever)
    & they were fighting for Bivol’s Strap
    Well that is old hat, after Bivol whooped him convincingly- no need for a rematch at 175lb
    bivol is satiated.

    if Nelo really wants the rematch Bivol wanted to challenge him for his straps at 168lb … bivol wants a shot at daring to be great as well
    Otherwise what’s the point aside from another “PeyDey” after all we established money isn’t everything to a guy like Bivol.

    That’s what Bivol wanted or no deal
    Looks like he got what he wanted.

    Canelo is still fighting at 168lb
    With the front runner being an inactive Charlo
    So why not Bivol at 168lbs?
    (Especially since he “wants” that get back!)
     
  7. Reppin501

    Reppin501 The People's Champ Full Member

    Joined:
    Apr 26, 2010
    Messages:
    21,962
    Likes Received:
    3,344
    Because Canelo makes people money…which is why we all go to work, fighters are no exception.
     
  8. HellSpawn86

    HellSpawn86 "My heart goes out to you!" Full Member

    Joined:
    May 6, 2007
    Messages:
    21,635
    Likes Received:
    29,103
    In an ideal world Bivol would call the shots, but it's about brand and money. Canelo is a bigger brand and commands more money even though he lost. Bivol isn't making another big fight or as much money without fighting Canelo. Not what I would hope for, but it's the truth.
     
    Sheikh and vargasfan1985 like this.
  9. Reppin501

    Reppin501 The People's Champ Full Member

    Joined:
    Apr 26, 2010
    Messages:
    21,962
    Likes Received:
    3,344
    Think about the retired fighters from the 80’s and 90’s who were left with nothing. Any fighter who doesn’t take every dime they can from this game, while risking their lives and livelihood will live to regret it. “Legacy” is important, very important, but money is most important. You’re one lawsuit, one bad business deal, from being broke and left being a 40 year old, unskilled, uneducated, person trying to navigate the rest of your life.
     
    Sheikh likes this.
  10. jmb1356

    jmb1356 Well-Known Member Full Member

    Joined:
    Sep 30, 2019
    Messages:
    2,031
    Likes Received:
    2,206
    Why doesn't Canelo just move up to 175? He obviously doesn't want to fight Benavidez. There's Yarde, Browne, Joe Smith, Beterbiev.
     
  11. Serge

    Serge Ginger Dracula Staff Member

    Joined:
    Jul 21, 2009
    Messages:
    84,411
    Likes Received:
    140,462
    Plant earned $10m for facing Clenelo. Smith allegedly $8m-$10m. And BJS 2.0 allegedly $8m.

    Bivol earned $2 mill guaranteed with a potential of it rising to $5 mill after his PPV cut

    Bivol had a better resume than all of them and had made seven defences of his world title going into the fight. He's made 9 now and he's coming off back to back drubbings of the then P4P king Clenelo and undefeated Zurdo.

    This Eurasian King played with Clenelo and made it look easy and everytime Clenelo tried to assert himself he was quickly slapped back down. Bivol even stood head to head with him for spells in the championship rounds, as if to offer Clenelo a lifeline by standing exactly where Clenelo wanted and needed him to be, and guess what Bivol bossed him at that range too. Now Clenelo will never get a chance to avenge his loss to that Eurasian King and he will have to carry that L with him for life and all because he refused to treat Bivol with due respect at the negotiating table.
     
    Oreet Cha! and C.J. like this.
  12. ElCyclon

    ElCyclon Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

    Joined:
    Dec 2, 2012
    Messages:
    22,790
    Likes Received:
    14,482
    Canelo wanted the fight @ 175 for several reasons, the main one being he didn't want anybody coming up with excuses that he drained Bivol, his own words. And we all know he was right about that.

    So by your own standards Canelo is a "man of principles" since he stuck to his guns.

    Also Bivol will now be fighting a beltless no-hoper at 175 for a huge cut in pay, so why not Canelo at that weight?

    We can go back and forth all day on this.
     
  13. C.J.

    C.J. Boxings Living Legend revered & respected by all Full Member

    Joined:
    Apr 14, 2009
    Messages:
    46,772
    Likes Received:
    15,917
    Canelo calls himself the King of Boxing ROFLMAO yet ducks a challenge from Bivol . After all Bivol accepted all Canelos demands & received a peanut check for putting his 175 title on the line against the awesome King Canelo. Bivol kicked the crazy so called King's butt in the process made him look ordinary. YET When Bivol offers to fight Canelo for his 168 titles he scrounged @ 168 for a more realistic check The MIGHTY King gives out a mighty QUACK !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! & goes after a semi retired Jermall Charlo who hasn't fought in 2 years.
    How on earth can any real boxing fan support this clown
    Canelo zoomed in to fight Kovalev without giving him time to recover from being practically neutered by the pounding his testes took from Billy Goat Ward's none stop fouls that were all ignored by ref Tony Weekes.
    Now he's picking on Jermall Charlo who is obviously in no condition to make a serious challenge
    King Canelo ????????? Nah more like CLOWN PRINCE Canelo Its unbelievable!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
     
  14. Hanz Cholo

    Hanz Cholo Boxing Junkie Full Member

    Joined:
    Jul 11, 2012
    Messages:
    14,521
    Likes Received:
    11,331
    yeah Canelo stuck to his guns too so good for him as well.

    Bivol didn’t want canelo again at 175lb
    As he already proved who the better man was at that weight no sense to run it back at 175lb
    It was a clear victory over Canelo.
    & tbh I’m glad Bivol & Canelo are not fighting that same fight.

    I’d rather see canelo defend 168lbs against the PBC guys.
     
    Maidanas Gun Tattoo likes this.
  15. C.J.

    C.J. Boxings Living Legend revered & respected by all Full Member

    Joined:
    Apr 14, 2009
    Messages:
    46,772
    Likes Received:
    15,917
    Bivol doesn't prance around with a silly crown on his head claiming to be The King of Boxing like that Ginger Nutt does He proved with his fists just how superior he is compared to Canelo he kicked his cowardly butt
    So now instead of manning up & accepting a realistic challenge from Bivol for Canelo to defend his 168 titles he's scrounged Canelo signed a contract to fight a damaged, Jermall Charlo who hasn't fought in over 2 years plus the poor guys personal problems he's had to endure. If that's not prime cherry picking I don't know what is..
    Plus The WBC's BS action not sanctioning the fight Canelo's dumped the WBC belt once already when he chickened out of fighting GGG so he could do it again. Admit it Canelo is a FRAUD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!