BJ Penn v Shinya Aoki

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  1. Beekeeper

    Beekeeper Bedtime Story, Aoki Style Full Member

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    You already know my views on this fight
     
  2. Stoo

    Stoo Obsessed with Boxing banned

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    Well that's true, but what was false was that he hasn't had the opportunity to face better opposition. I was merely correcting you, again
     
  3. 196osh

    196osh Mendes Bros. Full Member

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    Nothing to say about Garcia?
     
  4. Beekeeper

    Beekeeper Bedtime Story, Aoki Style Full Member

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    Yes it is, far more challenging

    So you want to dissect all of BJs grappling losses? The only reason you put up a grappling match is because you cannot argue with his MMA career,

    So.... whatever

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  5. Beekeeper

    Beekeeper Bedtime Story, Aoki Style Full Member

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    I meant Hughes is better than Melendez imbecile
     
  6. 196osh

    196osh Mendes Bros. Full Member

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    Actually its because you make excuses for every loss he has, then act like he could submit BJ Penn.

    Who is world reknowned as being a total prodigy of BJJ, he won the Mundials after 4 years and didn't drop a point. So asserting that Aoki could sub him when he hasn't subbed anybody near his level is just an assertion, and the fact he has not subbed a truley high level grappler suggests he couldn't.

    Particularly when BJ is a better grappler in mma than any fighter he has ever fought.
     
  7. Stoo

    Stoo Obsessed with Boxing banned

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    He's lost to Sakurai twice. He was left crying at ringside. He looked like an absolute mug against Gilbert, and his best win is Alvarez and Hansen, who already KHTFO Ive asked you to name his best win and you cant/wont
    That MMA career?
     
  8. Stoo

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    So your admitting that BJ is better?
     
  9. Beekeeper

    Beekeeper Bedtime Story, Aoki Style Full Member

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    Great, fair statement, you are entitled,

    but here is a list of fighters who have never been submitted before facing Aoki:

    Jason Black
    Kastsuhiko Nagata
    Eddie Alvarez
    Mizuto Hirota

    On BJs level? no, but not a bad list
     
  10. Beekeeper

    Beekeeper Bedtime Story, Aoki Style Full Member

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    again, refer to my views on the Melendez fight
     
  11. Stoo

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    That's a terrable list, Id get the edit in before somene quotes it....
     
  12. 196osh

    196osh Mendes Bros. Full Member

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    Submitting people not on BJs level does not give a justification that Aoki would submit BJ.

    What is your justification for thinking he would submit the best grappler he has ever faced when he has failed to submit inferior grapplers than BJ?
     
  13. Stoo

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    He's gonna buttscoot his way to victory?
     
  14. Beekeeper

    Beekeeper Bedtime Story, Aoki Style Full Member

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    Well BJ has failed to KO fighters on Aoki's level so what do you have to say about that?
     
  15. Stoo

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    Name them