BOCK BOCK Lesnar.....is the best

You're mistaken. The heavyweight division is the strongest it has been since the heyday of Pride. The only fighters missing are Fedor and Overeem and it remains to be seen if Overeem is even a top heavyweight as he hasn't actually defeated one yet.

 

deal

 

I found this quite freakin humorous! "The baddest man on the planet" isnt' somethign you say when a man got dominated like that, his face looks the way it did, and the only offense he did within like 7 minutes was.....To fall to the ground, and wrap his arms around Carwin's neck!
I seriously don't hate Lesnar, and I give him props for pulling out the win. They could have said "Toughest man on the planet" or some ****. People like Ward, Gatti, etc have taken worse I know, but I would have been ok if they'd have talked about his toughness. Baddest man on the planet though...He didn't look like it to me.
SO, UFC you can use "Toughest man on the Planet" or "Luckiest man on the planet"
*BUT* please refrain from using "Baddest man on the Planet" or ever use the word "skill" during his fight

 

Why wasn't the fight stopped like every other UFC fight is, if someone llays on the ground and covers?

 

Haters wanna hate,
Lovers wanna love,
I don't even want,
None of the above,
I want to **** on you.
Yes I do, I'll **** on you,
I'll pee on you.

 

You realize there is no "team UFC" or "team" anything? Constantly saying "your" just shows that you take this far too personally to be objective

 

Good lord you are ignorant.

 

There is a point at which it becomes pointless to respond to these threads and this one passed it long ago. Let's see. Before Crocop and Nogueira entered the UFC neither was considered shot. In fact, Crocop had just won the Pride Open Weight Grand Prix and was all but headed to a rematch with Fedor. He entered the UFC as the all but uncrowned new champion with plans to officially win the title and then challenge Fedor as the UFC champion. Both Crocop and Nogueira were not only defeated - but were utterly crushed by the new crop of UFC heavyweights. In the meantime, all Fedor has managed to do is fight the UFC castoffs that lost in the UFC and were cut from the organization and he even lost to one of them. I don't like pointing those facts out because I am a Fedor fan and still believe he can beat anyone in the world, but he hasn't been fighting the top heavyweights in the world and never will. Overeem? Yes, I think he's tough but he hasn't actually beaten a top heavyweight to be considered a top heavyweight. Werdum just submitted Fedor in one minute and he was knocked out in about teh same amount of time by Junior Dos Santos in the UFC. It's getting a bit tiresome attempting to educate the trolls around here. And by trolls I mean you and anyone that wants to blindly ignore the fact that Brock Lesnar just defeated one of the most dangerous heavyweights in the world and he has done so in a career that has barely spanned six fights. Here's a bit more knowledge dropped on your head - Leon Spinks had seven fights when he fought and defeated Muhammad Ali for the heavyweight championship of the world amd it didn't make his championship illegitimate. Brock lesnar has faced and defeated the most dangerous heavyweight in the world in Shane Carwin and anyone who says otherwise is living in the past or is simply in denial and needs to take some time away from these forums and MMA until they learn to put things into a proper perspective.

 

So let's break it down point by point.

1) Crocop entered the UFC as the 2006 Pride Open Weight Grand Prix champion - having defeated "top" heavyweight Josh Barnett in the finals to win those honors and was summarily KO'd and then TKO'd by Gabriel Gonazaga and junior Dos Santos in the UFC. He wasn't shot when he entered but he was certainly shot when he arrived.

2) let's see: Carwin defeated Gonzaga and Mir. Dos Santos TKO'd Crocop and KO'd Werdum who just submitted Fedor. Cain Velazquez defeated dangerous striker Kongo and KO'd master submission artist Nogeuira. Those are quality wins. In fact - they are the same wins that were used to build the reputation of Fedor. Period. End of sentence.

3) Leon Spinks defeated Muhammad Ali for the heavyweight championship of the world with only seven fights in his career. Brock is not now nor was he ever a kickboxer. he's a goddamn wrestler so of course his kickboxing sucks. You're using the fact that he had to regroup after being hurt as some kind of fact that he's a bad fighter. I submit that Boom Boom Manicini once turned his back and walked away from Alexis Arguello after taking one right hand to the chin in their fight. Neither one is a poor fighter - merely human.

4) Carwin punched himself out. It's a common error in punchers that have never had to go the distance. He'll learn to correct that error the next time around.

5) Log out and don't come back.

 

Yeah well I **** on you!

 

Scurla, bro you need to get over your blind bias. I know you're not a troll like some of these other cats, but I don't see how you can claim to ignore the legitimacy of these fighters while Fedor has been fighting BUMS. His biggest, most dangerous fight was going to be against Barnett who has been crushed by Crocop in every fight they ever had. Crocop went on to get KO'd and TKO'd in the UFC after he entered as the Pride Open Weight Grand Prix Champion. If Crocop was shot - then in taking a page from Antonio Tarver's book - the UFC shot him.

 

I was going to take your argument seriously until you said Fedor's been fighting bums. :blood Additionally your maths is poor. Fighter A beats fighter B but fighter A looses to fighter C. Its nonsense. So Barnett loss to CC at the OWGP so what? Back to back fights in a GP against the best version of CC we've ever seen. Wheres the shame in that? Additionally it doesnt take away from the fact that Barnett is still one of the best top 5 heavys in the world. What do you think Barnett would do to Lesnar? I know who my money would be on. But then again you just wrote off Barnett because he lost to CC at the OWGP...

 

That's not what I'm saying. I'm saying you can't write off Crocop's UFC fights as his being shot because he clearly wasn't based on his performance in the Open Weight Grand Prix.

 

Werdum isn't a bum - but pretty much everyone else Fedor has fought since calendar year 2005 hasn't posed a real threat. Some are indeed bums.