Boxing fans who self contradict

DLH is about 3 inches taller than Floyd and although they started at the same weight class, DLH is definately the bigger man. Floyd spent way more time at 130, and I remember when they were doing pre fight interiviews in February, it was clear that DLH was much heavier

 

Toney is 5'10" with a 72" reach. A quick glance through the top middleweight right now would leave him on the SMALL size for the division. Hell in the top ten I think Ouma is the only middleweight with a smaller frame.

I could say that Bernard, Kelly and Jermain all looked depleted and like they were fasting at 160 if I had pictures of them more muscular at the LHW or even Cruiser.

 

Of course he was then but when people say "naturally" bigger like Floyd was fighting a natural 154 pounder that was not true.

 

Well he is naturally bigger. Not neccesarily a natural 154 pounder, but I would say that he was a natural welterweight. Him and Tito looked like mirror images sizewise when they scrapped. Now, being a natural welterweight, compared to Floyd who looked the best at 135 or 140, he is a naturally bigger man.

 

Now that is an assesment I can agree with 100%. So basically you're agreeing with me when I said it's crazy for people to say Floyd is naturally bigger than Hatton huh?

 

When has Hatton struggled to make 140 :huh

It's easy to confuse being a fat slob between fights with "weight draining" but Hatton has never struggled at the weight (except for at 147 when he struggled to put it on properly). Just look at how little he puts on between weigh in and fight time.

 

See that ones actually a little tougher to define. By height and reach, Floyd is the bigger man, but as far as their careers as fighters, Hatton to me, has to be considered the bigger man because he has always fought with an unbelievable amount of muscle mass, and generally weighs more when he fights at 140 than Floyd does for bouts at 147.

Jimbo, when you're fighting at 140 and you come into the ring at 150+, youre struggling to make weight. Maybe you can do it successfully, but youre sucking down a lot of weight.

 

Oscar is a natural 154 pounder. Sure he started out at a lower weight, but as you get older, your body matures and you pack on the pounds. Floyd walks around at about 148 lbs., Oscar probably walks around at around 165 or more. He was at least 160 in that ring against Mayweather. Go to youtube and do a search on Floyd. You'll see interviews they did together before the fight. You'll see that DLH is noticeably bigger.

 

Although I'd love to credit Floyd for beating a natural 154 pounder, ODLH is not that man. He can't make 147 anymore because he doesnt want to train that hard. In his physical prime 25-30, DLH looked his best at 147 and was a comparable size (height, reach) to his opponents at 147.

 

You just explained what I was saying. DLH is no longer in his physical prime. His body has changed to the point where he can't make 147 without pretty much starving himself. Just a few years ago, Floyd was fighting at 135. There's no way he could train normally and get down to that weight.

 

Alright. I see what you're saying now. Saying that you have to acknowledge that DLH is not in his physical prime anyways. Fair enough.

 

I am not denying that at all but there is no way Oscar is a natural 154 lber. He is naturally bigger than Floyd though so I will give you that. I guess the only way to really say they are the same size would be if they were the same age and both started at 130 but of course it's easier for a younger man to fight at lower weights than an older one. There is 1 exception though and that's your boy B-Hop. I guarantee you he could still make 160 now and be effective. It would take a lil longer but I know he could do it.

 

Reg and Guru both of you make good points.

 

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Being a celeb doesnt give you Boxing skill.He didnt get where he is because he is well known,you have to know how to fight.IF HE HAD NO SKILL HE WOULD HAVE LOST EARLY IN HIS CAREER.

Oscar is also a fighter you CANNOT claim ducked fighters.He fought at an extermly high level against MANY NAMES and even when he was younger he was fighting solid opposition with winning records.