Boxing Power and MMA Power are not the same

it's an average man sport.

If Ngannou was so far behind in skill , he should not have been able to near beat(or beat)Fury.

combat sports are the most easy sport to get into if you are a big guy with natural punching power.

Ngannou as a pure boxer would have still made it to where he is today, but would have likely gotten derailed by AJ or Fury a long time ago.
you guys act like the whole sport of boxing is AJ skill level.

You think Robert Helenius is any better? or some of the other questionable heavy weights. I don't honestly think Dillion Whyte is that far off. He was an average kickboxer, and he got stopped by Fury in rnd 7 just a year before Ngannou nearly beat Fury Even Wilder got topped earlier and performed worst with Fury, so why is it because Nganou gets koed by Aj, is he now the level of a club boxer?.

 

I don't have a dog in this fight like you do. I enjoy boxing, MMA, kickboxing, muay thai etc etc. The reality is some MMA fighters do hit as hard or harder than their pro boxing temporaries. You wish this not to be the case doesn't change the fact. That being said(as I already stated) that doesn't mean the MMA fighter wouldn't be knocked out in the boxing ring by the boxer they happened to punch harder than. Conor McGregor clearly hits harder than Floyd Mayweather Jr. we all saw what happened in that fight. Floyd didn't win with punching power, he won with superior skill and technique.

 

Fury is a coked out fat guy. It doesn't erase it, but it sure puts it in context.

 

Boxing is more technique-bound, it's a single martial art sport, of course, MMA fighters are not going to have crisp boxing techniques because they must learn multiple disciplines at a time.

This is like me saying "Clinching in MMA and Boxing are NOT the same!!!", duh.

Also everyone in the reply section saying "MMA is wild, bar fights" is simply ignorant. They said the same thing about Boxing 100 years ago. You simply sound like an old fart from the 1910's.

 

you don't think Conor did coke when he fought Mayweather, should i use that excuse?

Ngannou also did not train for Aj like he did Fury. He had mike tyson as a second trainer that broke him down and made him do more drills. He also had better class of sparring partners. I didn't see Ngannou training with anyone remotely high level, his training camp was a secret.

Aj has looked shaper with Ben Davis, contrast to his fight with Helenius and than with Otto and then Ngannou, Aj looks far sharper now than he did against helenius. Ngannou fought Aj at his best, it was a recipe for disaster. The training for Aj was far superior stacked on top of him already having a technical edge.

 

you originally said boxing power was different

so here is debunking:

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mayorga getting pieced up by an average mma guy.

a lifetime boxer loss a striking match to a guy who retired 6-8, Mayorga landed flush several times and did nothing to a guy who had like a 2-3 record at the time (amateur pro combine)

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Klitchko koed in a kickboxing match while wearing a head guard.

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Vitali Klitschko failing to knockout an average muay thai guy who isn't even that good.

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Ray mercer gets chinned and dropped for the first time in his career by a head kick in the first 27 seconds. Mercer landed flush several times at Musashi who had 10 ko losses and retired with like 30 losses in his record.

Before you say stuff like ' that is kick boxing not mma.'

the whole sport of mma is filled with former kickboxers/muaythai Tkd champions.

Any of them would make your average boxer look very average in an actual striking match.

 

Fury is very badly physically degenerated. You are in denial of what the entire rest of the world knows.

Ngannou's training had nothing to do with it...he got caught by a good, prime puncher.

 

Fury was fat in the second Wilder fight.

his physique from wilder and ngannou look the same. Stop acting like fury has always had an adonis body, his whole prime he fought fat from the time he came back post Klitchko.

More excuses.

 

He is considerably older and more deteriorated now. That is obvious.

 

ngannou is older than fury, you acting like fury is an old decrepit geezer. I'm a year older than Fury, more cop out.

Take the time to actually watch r1 and you'll see ngannou landed clean jabs on Aj and landed some check hooks. He was ahead in the score cards by 5/3 and then he switched and got dropped.

AJ soundly won, but Francis was not completely bewildered by AJ. I think Francis has a small window to win some hw matches. His worst matchups are heavy hitters like Wilder/AJ or Zhang. I don't care if he decides or becomes successful in boxing.

I just know the narrative of power by boxers being so different is weird coping for trying to diminish Nganous fight with Fury, by implying that any boxer that night would have beaten fury. That fury would still beat most of the top 10 boxers on the rankings.

Most people in here don't realize that combat sports have a small pool of talented fighters, Francis is part of the top 5% pool. Painting mma guys as less than is bs, no ordinary club fighter journey men would have done that to fury.