Boxing vs MMA credibility wise.

The best are actually fighting the best in MMA. We can't say that about boxing with the promoters, belts, regional belts, etc. No young MMA star has a record like Chavez jr. A televised UFC card is much more competitive than HBO's showcases and PPVs over the past few years. Boxing by far has the weaker PPVs. Boxing is sick.

I like boxing too but don't hate on MMA just because it's different.

 

and then there's Fedor

 

Please give an example of an MMA fighter who ducked another? Since they are not largly responsible for the matchmaking I dont understand how that could be possible. Please give an example? Since it happens "all the time" you should be able to give quite a few.

 

And that's my point, once they get to the UFC, they don't get 25 fights against tomato cans. Sure, in lower tier organizations before they're put on television they fight plenty of tomato cans, but how many fighters, while actually fighting in the UFC, have you seen fighting scrubs while not fighting other top fighters in their division? Not only that, but they start over at 0 - 0 when they make the show. Which in and of itself takes care of inflated records.

Secondly, it's not at all a myth that boxers have a tendency to pad their records. If you believe otherwise you are sadly mistaken. Goodness just look at the resume thread I started last night. There have been two or three names mentioned as having good resumes, Ali and SRL. Since 19 friggen 60! In this day and age fighters are considered to have good resumes for having two or three names on a resume consisting of 30 + fights. That is absolutely ****ing ludicrous. If you look at most fighter's resumes you'll see they are loaded with losing records, pre-school KO percentages, and guys that went on to do a whle lot of nothing in their careers. Fighters and promoters are placing far too much emphasis on paper titles and protecting their zeros instead of fighting the best in their divisions.

Third, what happened to Khan had **** all to do with being thrown to the wolves to early. Khan has had a suspect chin for a long, LONG time. The guy got floored BADLY in the amatures by a light hitter. He got put on his ass twice more by two other light hitters. They could have waited 10 years to step Khan up and the result would have been the same. The fact of the matter is that most of the elite in practically any weight class can bang, and Khan was NEVER going to have a good chance against them.

And lastly, your statement that White puts his stars up against chumps is absolute bs and you know it. Just look at Henderson, Ortiz, Liddel, Penn, etc, etc, etc. Practically EVERY major star in UFC has suffered losses against good competition becuase they are actually FORCED to fight each other.

When it comes to that boxing is an outright sham. The organizations are so busy trying to protect their fighters that they seem to NEVER attempt to unify. In my opinion, there should be at the very least one unification tournament a year per division.

 

Tito Ortiz avoided top contenders but besides him I think your pretty much right.

 

No, Tito Ortiz avoided ONE man, who he wound up fighting twice any way. Before fighting him he fought Mezger, Shamrock (Frank, the better Shamrock in my opinion), and Silva back to back to back.

 

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You're an idiot. No better than a creationist giving bogus explainations about how god created the universe. The UFC isn't MMA for one.

If the UFC = mma that's like saying that being muslim is a race. It isn't....it's a ****ing religion.

Taking the Lesnar example gives you no credibility on the issue whatsoever. It just further illustrates how quick you are to **** on this sport whenever you get the opportunity to do it.

 

They don't...And if they do , prove it. Lesnar shouldn't be fighting Couture , Werdum should be the one but Dana White changes the rules all the time. But that's the UFC. Not the globality of mma

 

exactly. And since Dana White is calling the shots...that's how it is. And the real contender often has to wait and wait...It's all business. But same goes in boxing.

Vitali klitschko vs Sam Peter is a perfect example of this

 

I think most of you guys are right. Boxing avoids opponents (even though they have to have a ton of fights before being a champ). MMA you must beat everybody to be the best/ champion.
You know what you guys forgot to mention though??? $$$MONEY$$$!!!
In boxing a lot of $ floats around, and if you have a fighter whom is a champion, and you have a rising star that champ doesn't always avoid him out of fear....but out of MONEY! Why lose your title to some guy who nobody heard about, and you don't make a big payday because of that?
In MMA there isn't that much $ floating around, or big name money stars of the business (everybody seems to have some losses on there records) so there forced to fight eachother.

So, I don't think anybody should talk crap about either honestly. "money makes the world go round." IF boxing were new, they didn't have many established stars, and didn't make that much $...You'd be seeing a lot better fights, and a lot of upsets. In the case of MMA there isn't much $, and they aren't that established so you see fighting that is unorganized.
For all those people who say MMA will be bigger than boxing mark my words...It never will! Not that it can't.....but the fact once it does reach boxing levels in popularity it won't be the same sport. Your going to have a lot of fixed fights, a lot of ducking, a lot of fighters playing it safe, etc. Just like BOXING! Then, there will either be a new trend for people to go to, or they go back to boxing, or lose a lot of there audience.

 

Honestly this pissing contest between boxing and MMA is kind of silly. While they both involve fighting they are two difrent sports. We can chose which one we like best based on our own prefrences and some of you might want to sit down for this... You can enjoy both the same if you chose.

 

Nice. Very enjoyable reading.

 

I will say this and this only for the UFC: In the beginning, that was the home of the true modern-day gladiator in that, if a 220lb. aikido champion wanted to hop in the ring with some giant from Kenya, he could do so and showcase his bravery. This cat actually won that fight. It was ****in' incredible. And he elected to get in the octagon with that guy. And the ref. in there with them was a real badass that was well capable of breaking things up if it got out of hand. The whole thing, if only for a short spell, was actually kinda refreshing.

 

lesnar vs couture is more of a side show match between popular boxers. no different than pacquio vs DLH