British Boxing is regressing without Hearn...

Think Joyce would break Joshua's heart but would like to see what happens when Wilder hits Joyce with his best.

 

Very good chance, aj would come in massive knowing he lands easy. No one knows if Joyce can take aj and wilder power... If he can he stops both of them imo

 

Without Hearn? Has he stopped promoting or something?

 

WTF are you on about? Hearn is still the leading UK promoter ffs.

 

I think its becoming clear hes being phased out from other promoters. Hes losing his power in getting the fights signed under dazn that he once did under sky.... when everyone complained.

In reality the people that have filled the gap is frank with his same old approach that seen british boxing failing badly prior to eddie coming in. And the new guy on sky who appears not to really know much about boxing or the business. Seems a decent fella tbf.

Its a bit like the same group complaining on here constantly have now lead us down the path of being back to square one. Where boxing was clearly failing and becoming increasingly a niche sport.

Now gonna need to wait months for decent fights. Undercards are even worse and the price is going up and we,ve still got ppv.

We,re about to see the alternative to the group that have constantly called people mugs for paying ppv....which is basically too long between good fights....less well promoted fights....much more fights against no hopers waiting on money shots etc worse undercards. Boxing becoming a niche sport again. Brilliant. Lets wait around to find out that challengers will just avoid each other mostly as they did prior to eddie hearn. It,ll now take much longer for them fights to happen. Lets see if the next generation of guys like whyte, chisora, joyce, parker, usyk, and the rest of the heavyweights etc etc will fight each other without the ppv money. I suspect we,ll be waiting a while.

Lets see if what you,ve all been asking for will happen consistantly....like it was with ppv. As i,ve always said its either ppv and we get good fights consistantly....or no ppv and we end up waiting forever for good fights slowly killing the sport and taking us back to step one.

What you,ve all been asking for...would make sense if we,re about to get consistantly good fights for free. But it feels like we,re only going one way....straight back to step one. Boxing struggling without anyone wanting to really invest barring a sure thing with lazy promoting to back it up. Challengers avoiding each other for too long. People losing interest in the sport all over again.

 

Peaks and troughs. Right now we are in the latter. Boxing has been like this all its days.

 

And it’s never going to change.

When you have a sport that is so corrupt and is always run by people who don’t pass a ‘fit and proper person’ test. You end up with boxing as it’s been run for its entire history.

When Hearn was on top a small minority of fairly mediocre fighters earned a ton of money. Did any of this really trickle down and improve the grass roots of the sport? Did he use his influence to get more boxing gyms opened and get more kids participating in it?

Where I live I cannot find a single boxing gym within a 50 mile radius of my house that is open to anyone under 12 years old. That can’t be right.

The Hearn era didn’t leave British boxing in any better place than where he found it.

 

The thing is a big Ppv event doesn’t always correlate with a great fight. “Growing” the sport through ppv sometimes just means the kind of fights you can sell to people watching GMTV etc, we’ve been in an era of ppv for years and still the fights between the actual top guys have alluded us. And then you can get fights like chisora and whyte that are entertaining but you wouldn’t exactly describe as the top guys fighting each other.

 

This is a good point. Hearn didn't die. He's still here. So if he was responsible for the boom presumably he's equally responsible for the downturn?
Nobody forced him to go on an app.

 

The bottom line is this a sport where challengers dont face each other very often....is a sport no one will stay interested in for very long. Thats exactly what will happen now. Thats where the sport was at. We did get the big fights but most importantly we got a sport that actually functioned with challengers fighting other challengers regularly. Whyte v chisora 1 was actually an undercard fight as well on a joshua undercard.

My question is now what. The guys that we,re constantly shouting stop ppv. Stop eddie hearn. Where have all the consistantly good fights gone and when are they coming back?

The real truth is unknown to them it was never about eddie hearn. And always about boxing needs investment....no one is really willing to invest on anything thats not a sure thing....so the fans had to do it or no one else would.

 

I'm not sure Eddie can get all the credit for the golden era that just ended. Managing to become Sky's exclusive boxing promoter was his biggest achievement, which was off the the back of his dad's longtime involvement with Sky. At the time, Warren was trying his thing with Boxnation. Hatton, Maloney and Hennesy were too small to put up much of a fight and Sky were the only real broadcasting company with any serious financial backing, as BT Sport were not even launched.
Hearn's timing was perfect, it's no wonder he took over UK boxing. The talent available was ripe, especially with the homegrown Olympic fighters that had some serious government backing in preparation for the London Olympic games.

Hearn deserves credit for putting himself in the position he did, but so does Sky for realising their own dominance in the sports market and having the foresight to realise one boxing promoter would cut through all of the inter-promotional politics.

After being king in the UK, it was obvious he wanted to take over the world. He may succeed in overseas territories, but the big markets, especially the US, well that attempt died with a whimper. He won't be able to get back to his UK dominance again either. DAZN will never reach the heights of Sky in this country in terms of influence and competing as a brand. As good as Hearn may be, he can't compete with a household broadcasting network that is pumping Premier League matches into to everyone's home up and down the country. BT Sport are in a stronger position with Warren's sons bringing more energy and life to Queensbury.
DAZN is not the "Netfix of sport" that we were promised, PPV is not dead on DAZN as we were told. In fact it's all been massively underwhelming and I wanted them to succeed, I'd have loved to get regular boxing at an affordable price.

 

Thing is I don't see a dip in quality of Hearns cards to the last 4 or 5 years on Sky so I don't get your point.

 

Hearnz messed up, simple.

He should have solidified his grip in the UK, and did 1 off massive events in the states working with the big promotional outfits out there.

Instead he let his silver spoon privilege get to him and spread himself thin trying to take over the world.