British Forum BETTING thread

Discussion in 'British Boxing Forum' started by TFFP, Mar 1, 2009.


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  1. Beeston Brawler

    Beeston Brawler Comical Ali-egedly Full Member

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    Leeds are 2/7 to beat Grimsby on Betfair.

    I hope we lose actually..... we need to concentrate on the league.
     
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  2. RichT

    RichT Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Always the worry with these cup games :?
     
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  3. andyZOR

    andyZOR Obsessed with Boxing banned

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    I think Bisping is a good fighter. Losing to Dan is no shame. No matter the age.

    Its kinda like losing to Hopkins in boxing.
     
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  4. andyZOR

    andyZOR Obsessed with Boxing banned

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    nah i dont bet like that i go for straight up winners ;p
     
    andyZOR, Nov 10, 2009
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  5. Chud

    Chud Active Member Full Member

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    same here, i try to bet the game or fight rather than the odds. do take a punt once in a while but i like to make 5-8 bet accumulators where everyting seems pretty safe. usually a good way to get 4 or 5x return.
     
    Chud, Nov 10, 2009
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  6. TFFP

    TFFP The Eskimo

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    Nothing is a straight up winner or they'd just give you money.

    The point is if I considered Ward/Kessler 60/40 in favour of Kessler there ain't much sense in taking Kessler at 4/9 when Ward is 3/1 on points. In the long run the 40% chance at 3/1 is going to earn more.
     
    TFFP, Nov 10, 2009
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  7. Cobbler

    Cobbler Shoemaker To The Stars Full Member

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    Can't avoid mathematics in the long term. Either the odds you bet on are better than the actual chance of the event happening, in which case you win in the long term, or they aren't, in which case you lose.
     
    Cobbler, Nov 10, 2009
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  8. mryeags

    mryeags Boxing Addict Full Member

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    But thats ur personal opinion on a 60/40 fight ... i personally have it 75/25 in favour of Kessler ... so IMO Kessler 1/2 is worth a punt ... probably by tko ....
     
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  9. TFFP

    TFFP The Eskimo

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    I'm talking betting strategy, that a good gambler always considers price/chance in his own mind. Forget about this specific fight !

    As Cobbler said, maths always wins in the end.
     
    TFFP, Nov 10, 2009
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  10. mryeags

    mryeags Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Disagree ! i back fighterd well in advance but will make a call on the price ... i fancied Froch to beat Dirrell and 4/6 was a top price but i also fancied Moore to win but 1/3 was no value - in the end i bacvked Rhodes in running 20's was a very nice winner.... but i wouldnt back a fighter purely on value ! - i know who im gonna back and will even if i dont get the odds i want .... i had Dawson at the weekend 2/7 didnt represent any value but i knew he was a winner....
     
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  11. TFFP

    TFFP The Eskimo

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    Aren't you agreeing with me then? You just said you didn't back Moore because he was 1/3. Isn't that exactly the point? If you were just picking winners you'd have picked Moore, but in your own mind the chance/price ratio was no good. And well, you were correct.

    I'm not talking about backing on value, thats called a punt. That's what you do when you fancy a 50/1 shot on the horses and you lay a few pounds down. That's not a good strategy for betting on 2 men in a ring but nor is picking winners regardless of price, a healthy appreciation of both is neccessary to be successful in the long term.

    If a 40% chance is 2/1 and the 60% chance is 4/9, presuming that actually turns out to be the case...trust me mathematically you are gonna do better backing the 40%.
     
    TFFP, Nov 10, 2009
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  12. kosaros

    kosaros Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    M Hatton vs NDou

    Either to win on points: 1/2 (£50 bet wins £75)
    NDou stoppage: 11/4 (£25 bet wins £93.75)

    I still think M Hatton by decision at 7/2 are great odds, because there is no way he is winning this by stoppage.
     
    kosaros, Nov 10, 2009
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  13. TFFP

    TFFP The Eskimo

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    Nice one Kos. Thats potentially some free money right there. You are always on the lookout for the free money :lol:
     
    TFFP, Nov 10, 2009
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  14. kosaros

    kosaros Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    :yep Sky in-play is the best thing ever as well for that. When Haye was at 2/1 after the first few rounds I was gutted a computer wasn't near me :lol:
     
    kosaros, Nov 10, 2009
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  15. Chud

    Chud Active Member Full Member

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    South Africa are favoured by 1 point over the French on friday

    France: 15 Damien Traille, 14 Vincent Clerc, 13 Yann David, 12 Maxime Mermoz, 11 Cedric Heymans, 10 Francois Trinh-Duc, 9 Julien Dupuy, 8 Louis Picamoles, 7 Imanol Harinordoquy, 6 Thierry Dusautoir (captain), 5 Romain Millo-Chluski, 4 Lionel Nallet, 3 Nicolas Mas, 2 William Servat, 1 Fabien Barcella Replacements: 16 Dimitri Szarzewski, 17 Sylvain Marconnet, 18 Sebastien Chabal, 19 Julien Bonnaire, 20 Morgan Parra, 21 David Marty, 22 Maxime Medard.

    Springboks: 15 Zane Kirchner, 14 JP Pietersen, 13 Jaque Fourie, 12 Adi Jacobs, 11 Bryan Habana, 10 Morné Steyn, 9 Fourie du Preez, 8 Ryan Kankowski, 7 Schalk Burger, 6 Heinrich Brüssow, 5 Victor Matfield, 4 Bakkies Botha, 3 John Smit (captain), 2 Bismarck du Plessis, 1 Tendai Mtawarira. Replacements: 16 Adriaan Strauss, 17 Wian du Preez, 18 CJ van der Linde, 19 Andries Bekker, 20 Danie Rossouw, 21 Ruan Pienaar, 22 Wynand Olivier

    The French often do well against them but thats a strong team, 5/4 for SA -4 looks tasty. With the exception of Pier Spies thats a full strength pack and the French half backs are ass too and they are lacking pace in the backs.
     
    Chud, Nov 11, 2009
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