British Title vs European Title.

Thank you :thumbsup

 

for example?

 

british belt hands down for me!!

 

:deal

Before Jamoye was brought in to face McDonnell. The opponent that was supposed to be the Swiss Champion with a record like 8-2, don't know who put a stop on that fight but I am sure it wasn't the EBU. Matthew Hatton's last opponent was a bit of shocker and it was pretty clear that he was going to be from looking at his record. Audley Harrison-Michael Sprott had no right to be sanctioned for the European and in all honesty Danny McIntosh should not have been fighting for the vacant Title.

 

For example the bums Matt Hatton and McDonnell have fought recently.

 

I am not going to defend every guy that fights for the EBU dont in comparision to the guys that fight for (and win) the British title it comes out pretty well

Lenny Daws v Steve Williams

Stuart Hall v Gary Davies

Chris Edwards v Usman Ahmed :rofl:rofl:rofl:rofl

 

As opposed to Sarritzu's recent European defences against fighters with records of 15-15 and 13-16?

 

It still loses a good deal of credibility because the point is its supposed to be better but they keep matching up terrible matches all the time that discredit the fact its supposed to be the best in Europe. Even Paul Hyland is ****, and shouldn't be anywhere near a European title. He just popped into my head as well at random.

The British title does what it says it does for the most part. Not always, nothing is 100% efficient in boxing but generally. That division is devoid of boxers period, so Chris Edwards/Usman Ahmed is not really a slight against the British title. They are two of the best fighters even though they're pretty bad. I think in general the board do an okay job of putting matches together and decent rankings whereas Euro seems to be fairly random and their lack of professionalism is shown up by the fact they are capable of not updating rankings for months.

 

awww diddums!

feel the need to lash out because you are talking shít and cant back your position up with facts?? and because you dodged the question in the post as well.

there, there!

 

I am not sure what your point is with regards the EU (western european) and EE (eastern) titles.

They are regional titles - just like the British titles has regional feeder titles like the Scottish, Celtic, Southern Area and Miland Area.

Name one guy with an impressive Euro run recently?

How about Rendall Munroe - if memory serves be correctly he dropped the British title so fast people thought someone told him it was made out of prostitutes shít.

Here are a few others - Sebastian Sylvester, Marco Huck, Oleh Yefimovych, Yuri Ramanau, Jackson Osei Bonsu

 

OK. Lest break it down. Lets compare the purse bids for the British title and the European title and see which are bigger. Lets see what impact and British title has on world rankings and lets see what the European does.

Finally, lets compare champions. (where a title has been vacated, I have used the last champion)

Parking your British bias at the door lets see which ones you think the British champion would win clearly, which ones you think the European champion would win clearly and which ones you think are toss ups.

HW - Dereck Chisora v Alexander Dimitrenko
Before Williams was champ it was Scott Gammer. He last defence was against Micky Steeds, Mouth watering.

CW - Rob Norton v Alexander Frenkel
Norton also defeated Steads in another mouth watering contest. We have also been treated to John Keeton v Lee Swaby so the title a couple of years ago.

LHW - Tony Bellew v Danny McIntosh
Recent British highlight - Dean Francis v Tony Oakey and Peter Oboh v Andrew Lowe

SMW - James DeGale v Brian Magee
Recent British highlight - Tony Quigley v Tony Dodson

MW - Darren Barker v Matthew Macklin
Recent British highlight - Darren Barker v Danny Bulter

LMW - Sam Webb v Lukas Konecny
Recent British highlight - Anthony Small v Thomas McDonagh and Gary Woolcombe v Marcus Portman

WW - Kell Brook v Matthew Hatton
Recent British highlight - Kell Brook v Stuart Ewell

LWW - Lenny Daws v Paul McCloskey
Recent British highlight - Lenny Daws v Steve Williams

LW - Anthony Crolla v John Murray
Recent British highlight - Jonathan Thaxton v Dave Stewart

SFW - Gary Sykes v Stephen Foster
Recent British highlight - pretty good quality fights at this weight going back to 2006

FW - John Simpson v Sofiane Takoucht
Recent British highlight - another strong division

SBW - Jason Booth v Willie Casey
Recent British highlight - ditto

BW - Stuart Hall v Jamie McDonnell
Recent British highlight - Stuart Hall v Gary Davies

FW - Paul Edwards v Andrea Sarritzu
Recent British highlight - Chris Edwards v Usman Ahmed

 

Derek Chisora is a better fighter.

Bellew is a better fighter and McIntosh is British anyway. He just got a random shot out of nowhere which only enhances the point the EBU discredit themselves.

James DeGale is the better fighter and Magee is british anyway

Darren Barker is probably the better fighter, or 50/50 and Macklin is british anyway

Kell Brook is the better fighter and Matt Hatton is British anyway

John Simpson is probably the better fighter, or 50/50.

Stuart Hall/McDonnell is 50/50 and McDonnell's shot was random and he's British anyway, he got a gift against Napa at a very strong domestic level.

Very conclusive.

 

Rendall never won the British and yes he beat some good fighters but he also faced some poor opponents such as Boutia or Trotta. Most of the names you mentioned where champions a number of years ago now and most of the decline has been in the last year or two. Look at some of these fights as a sign of poor standards, can you honestly say that some of these fights and fighters are above British level.

Harrison-Sprott (These two weren't even the best 2/3 Heavyweights in the UK)
Magee-Aramyan (Aramyan has a terrible record and is a Middleweight, his last win over a half way serious opponent was back in 2007)
Macklin-Varon (Varon gave a tough fight but that was mainly down to Macklin being sick, if you look at his record he has beaten three fighters with winning records since beating Konecny in 2004 and only one of those guys had more then 10 fights)
Rhodes-Messi (Messi last win against a fighter with a winning record was in 2005)
Hatton-Belge (Belge is ranked 205 by BoxRec need I say any more)
McCloskey-Morrison (Morrison is ranked as the #12 Light Welterweight in Britain by the BoxingSite and a genorous #6 by BoxRec)
Yefimovych-Maggio (Maggio had lost his last two fights and had just 10 fights on his record)
Bouziane-Salvini (Salvini had a record of 13-8-1, had lost two of his last three)
McDonnell-Bracco (Bracco had only ever beaten two fighters with winning records and neither of those fighters had more than 10 wins)

I don't like judging a fighter by their record but you can just tell when a fighter is going to be garbage and of the above, the only fighter that made a good fight was Varon and that was because Macklin was ill.

 

Their rankings are updated on the 4th of EVERY month and issued on the 14th

 

Fact is Slappy just owned himself with that stupid list he just posted. The European title is dominated by British fighters. British level is very strong compared to the rest of the domestic ciruits in European countries. We more or less own them. The European title is little more than a platform for British fighters to knock about the occasional decent fighter and a lot of Euro stiffs. Sometimes they don't even have to do that. It's actually rare you get the Maludrottu's and Martinez's from European countries, most of them are stiffs.

The British title is excellent and deserves respect. It does what it says on the tin and the guys it produces often go on to conquer the European belt.