Buatsi vs Summers and Brook vs Cook are OFF

This card should be downgraded to a regular Sky programming.

This shouldn't have been a PPV to begin with.

 

I agree but it wouldn’t be possible for Hearn to cover Whyte and Parker purses if it’s not PPV.

 

People here think it do much less on the PPV side with Brook being taken off the card?

 

Well feck both of them - neither worth a purse over £200k max.

If they won't fight for that figure feck them - shyte fight anyway

 

The problem with the PPV model is that Sky/Hearn pretty much work on a minimum guarantee of PPVs per year. Joshua counts for 2 maybe 3 so Hearn needs to find 3-4 for somewhere else. This is where the problem comes in. Its why we got Haye-Bellew 1 and its why Hearn persevered with the second fight even though it was a nonsense, especially given the Haye 'shoulder' injury (following the achilles injury). Hearn hasn't got many PPV stars outside of Joshua so he is has a huge problem delivering the half dozen or so PPVs required. What happens is we are getting cr*p like Whyte-Parker with a third of his stable dumped on the so called 'stacked' undercards.

In my opinion this is why we have had all the issues with Joshua-Wilder. Hearn doesn't want to waste a big PPV straight off the back of another big Josuha PPV (Parker). He knows he can spread them out and milk Joshua with 1-2 weaker fights in between and they'll obviously go on PPV. Now Povetkin might not even be an easier opponent than Wider but you get my point. It also explains why Hearn was desperate for Wilder to fight Whyte. Essentially he knew he could get another PPV out of that with Joshua v Povetkin a month later and he is ticking all the boxes. Neither Joshua or Hearn are worried about Wilder me thinks, but Wilder has called their bluff fantastically.

Ultimately, the big fights are not being made because there is the facility of PPV to help pay for them, which is the way it should work. Fights/cards are being stuck together to fill Sky's quota of PPV. Then the Sky Sports adverts and SSN hype gets behind it and drives up business with the help of a fake grudge here and there or a few tables being thrown.

 

Nope. I critise Warren when because it seems to happen more than once. BJS pulling out of the Murray fight for instance when tickets sales were incredibly low was either coincidental or just bad luck. You can decide which one.

There was the other show which got cancelled and moved to the copper box and again ticket sales were more the reason for that.

Injuries happen and Brook pulling out sux no doubt about that however it doesn't kill the show. Pulev pulling out v AJ didn't kill the show.

The fight sold out on the back of Whyte v Parker. I don't think brook v cook being off will hurt the buyrate too much as its all about the main event for most people.

Now if the show was cancelled then yeah Hearn would deserve every bit of stick coming his way as that's just BS.

Hearn does need to confirm however that the Brook fight is off as well as Buatsi. Officially that needs to be announced!!! Its bad practise for it not to be announced ASAP.

Brook himself needs to confirm it as well.

 

Would love to see it bomb. Hearn has put together a lot of dodgy PPV cards over the years. Bellew/Cleverly and Bellew/Haye x2 the first few to spring to mind. He got away with them. I really hope he doesn't get away with this one. I can pay for fights like Fury/Klitschko, Joshua/Klitshchko or even Frampton/Quigg because they're world championship fights that are intriguing match-ups. But paying for non title fights with guys like Bellew, a disabled Haye and Whyte is ridiculous. Lets hope this bombs badly and teaches Hearn a lesson. His success has gone to his head, he thinks he can sell us anything now.

 

It does 200k minimum with or without Brook. There's 4 million recouped before you look at ticket sales, sponsership, oversea rights etc. I'd imagine both guys will be pocketing close to 7 figures, thus the need for PPV is essential whether we like it or not.

Personally I'm more disappointed in the Summers pull out rather the brook cancellation- Brook vs Cook would have stagnated the card anyhow. I'd be happy to see Buglioni or Burton thrown in late notice for buatsi.

 

I think it does close to 300k. Hearn says 400k but I'm not convinced Whyte has that drawing power yet. 250k+ would be decent.

The reason these ppv's are doing well I think is because people are not being left disappointed with the ppv events. They have momentum now and it's why they probably can bank on a minimum of 200k quite easily.

 

People seriously overrate Whytes drawing power, just because he's a personality in IFL videos doesn't mean he's a draw he has little casual following. I doubt it would sell out with or without Kell Brook who himself sells no tickets in Sheffield let alone London.

 

Well he sold plenty tickets vs Browne at the O2 and the fight vs Parker sold out in a day. That doesn't happen if you are not a draw of some sort.

The O2 isn't easy to sell out..

Now if the fight does over 250k ppv buys I don't think anyone can deny that Whyte does indeed have drawing power.

 

Nah, doesn't happen on Hearn shows. Fake News.

 

Buatsi-Summers was actually reasonably interesting. The Brook fight was pants though. I have every confidence it'll remain PPV though because Whyte is grossly overpaid.

 

But Hearn thinks Whyte deserves a 6 figure payday because he’s beaten Helenius and Browne. Oh and he also thinks we have to fund it for him. What a joke.

It isn’t a PPV fight. Neither of them are draws. Why doesn’t Hearn put his hand in his own pocket if he thinks his fighter is deserving of a purse like that?

 

I'd imagine once the fight draws close we will see some 'fake beef' develop and probably the odd table thrown to be replayed 1000 times in a day by Sky Sports to add some PPV sales.

If we are very lucky we will get to see Tony Bellew get in the ring and offer to fight the victor of Whyte vs Parker for another PPV for Christmas.