Buncey's "Trigger happy bell man" excuse....

dftaylor in coherent relevant post shocker.


Also it's not so beyond the realms of possibility that Fwank has done this on more than one occasion, it just so happens that this is the only time its been necessary. As I've said before, he's as bent as a 9 bob note.

 

No. Noone said they knew. You asked how anyone knew. My post said balance of probability.

Ridiculous he may be in trouble part way through a round? :roll:

 

Pretty much sums up my feelings on the subject. The two knockdown thing just confirmed (in my mind) that something fishy was going down. Its pretty plain to see, if McPhilibin was in Enzo's position, the fight would have been stopped and a TKO given to Enzo.

 

The timekeeper acted like an idiot - would someone genuinely corrupt be so utterly shameless in doing their job? Come on -the balance of "probability" suggests no corruption.

Your point about the counts: well, actually that's what the timekeeper is meant to do. That way the ref can put the other fighter in the corner, confirm if it was a knockdown and then pick up the count from the timekeeper.

But yes, if you're "down the pub", no you don't need evidence, but considering blokes "down the pub" are generally ill-informed, you'll forgive me for saying your point is "off the mark".

Odd things happen. Yes, i was inept and bungling, but to make a fix work would require so many palms to be greased that inevitably one of the parties would tell someone.

THAT is the balance of probability.

Pretty dreadful fix if Frank paid the timekeeper rather than the referee then, yes?

The bold part is just laughable supposition.

 

Posted by dftaylor

Really, how difficult is it to keep track of time passed during rounds? I find it difficult to believe he could be that incompetent.

Obviously that was just an example. Most folks in the brit forum know their boxing anyway, but my point was that we don't need to prove anything here. Despite not having enough proof to charge someone, it's not unreasonable to believe that something dodgy has taken place. That's it, nothing to do with how much knowledge the average bloke down the pub has.

Why is it inevitable? There have been countless, unbelievably blatant robberies in this sport, which have been swept under the carpet, why would it have to be different on this occasion (IF it was a corruption) ? Why on this occasion would it be "inevitable" that someone blows the whistle when history has shown us otherwise?

Admittedly I don't know the rules fully, but why then did the boxnation commentator claim when that happened that the bbobc need to investigate it? Why did they make an issue of it on air if the timekeeper was only doing his job? Are they just as ignorant as I am about the rules?

 

Ive seen referees telling fighters off for punching another fighter in the face before so a time keeper calling a round early thinking he might be able to get a backhander from it seems believable enough really

 

Rawling is one of those guys who believes in 9-9 rounds without point deductions. Commentators often get the rules wrong. People get caught up in the moment all the time, that's a more likely explanation for the short round.

The theory of incompetence is more likely than corruption. Bringing up the same spurious point won't change my mind on that.

 

Fair enough if you think it's a case of incompetence, but I stand by my point that for people to believe this is a case of corruption is not unreasonable nor an over-reaction.

 

If it was the other way round the fight would have been stopped, its as simple as that really. I wouldnt be surprised if something dodgey was going on. You will never be able to prove anything anyway, not to say that people cant have their view on it because it looked bad. The only thing that makes me think its not dodgey is the fact that either way no one will take the clev fight seriously now thus making it a big waste of time!

 

Would one of the biggest and best-known boxing promoters in the world - regardless of how stable or otherwise his business might currently be - risk his reputation, his livelihood, his entire life almost, on bribing offiicals so that he could make a fight for a WBO belt between a good but not great champion and a faded challenger? I doubt it, and so would anyone with any sense who stops for one second to think what he's gambling and what he'd get out of it.

 

Either way, I love Bunce's perfectly timed duet of 'what going on' in the video.

 

And yet Floyd wasn't DQ'd against Zab.

 

^ rightly so IMHO.

 

Wasn't the round over in the Molina/Kirkland fight?

 

Wow, so much hate. I'm amazed at how many dreadful posts there are in this thread. I'm stunned, I expected better. It's like talking to a stubborn child and a stupid one at that.

It is adios.