Buster Douglas vs Lennox Lewis

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  1. fists of fury

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    Douglas in that one fight fought magnificently. Nobody can say otherwise.
    I don't think Tyson fought all that badly, but at the same time he was not on peak form. To an extent, Douglas was able to do what he wanted to do in there.

    I think the big difference here, as has been stated, it that Tyson and Lewis have vastly different dimensions. Tyson was always within punching range for Douglas, and Buster made sure Mike could not get inside much.
    Here, it is a 50/50 battle since Lewis is not only a little bigger than Buster, but a bigger hitter.

    But Lewis will need to be on form here. He could not afford to get lazy and sloppy as he sometimes did. Luckily for Lewis, Douglas did not really carry one-punch power; this would allow Lewis some leeway if he needs to work himself into the fight.

    Overall, the best Lewis beats the best Buster, but an off-form Lewis likely loses, as Tyson did.
     
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  2. Vanboxingfan

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    Very Good post. :good
     
  3. swagdelfadeel

    swagdelfadeel Obsessed with Boxing

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    No it's really not. Tokyo Douglas would have no chance of beating Lewis NOW.
     
  4. UFC2015

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    Anyone who can land that one big one to lennis China face has a decent chance of winning.
     
  5. Dubblechin

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    Buster Douglas lost to a number of big guys. Mike "The Giant" White. Tony Tucker. Even Lou "The Tuna" Savarese.

    The Douglas who fought Tyson was great, but Douglas was also fighting a guy that night who was a half a foot shorter than Lewis and had a reach that was shorter than Lewis' by 13 inches! And Tyson still had Douglas on the deck and nearly out.

    I was watching the Lewis-Tua fight last night (don't ask me why) and I hadn't seen it in years. Lewis entered the ring totally ripped. And he moved and jabbed and just totally dominated a David Tua who had reached his absolute peak.

    If the TOKYO Douglas had faced the Lennox Lewis who fought David Tua ... I don't think Douglas wins a round and gets humiliated.

    And if an ordinary Douglas fought an ordinary Lewis, I think Douglas loses.

    Actually, Lewis would have to be at his absolute worst, and Douglas at his absolute best ... and I'd still favor Lewis because of his power and reach and Douglas' penchant for quitting when he felt things weren't going in his favor.

    There is no scenario where I can see Buster Douglas teeing off on Lewis like Buster did against Tyson.
     
  6. Dubblechin

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    Lewis went down two times in his whole career, and got up at six on one of those occasions.

    The number of times Buster's chin betrayed him doesn't even show up on boxrec. Louis Monaco of all people wasted him in one round. It just came at the 3:01 mark instead of the 2:59 mark. How many times was Douglas on the deck in his career? More than a half dozen, that's for sure.

    By comparison, Lennox's chin was made of cast iron.
     
  7. swagdelfadeel

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    Goddamn, Dubblechin is taking it to UFC2015, can UFC2015, handle the heat, or will he quit like tinkerbell?
     
  8. UFC2015

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    Who is talking about busters chin? Point is any fighter in fighting shape and the Tokyo douglas fought the best fight of his life, if he can land that big to lennis face? Will that finish the job against lenni who will potentially under estimate, dis respect buster as is the excuse used for his losses by his nut huggers? Very strong possibility.

    The McCall count out was perfectly justified, lenni by ten was still looking and behaving like a drunk. Excellent and said decision by the ref.


     
  9. Dubblechin

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    So Lewis has to disrespect and underestimate Douglas, and fight the worst fight of his life ... and Douglas has to be as good or better than he was against Tyson ... and "maybe" Buster "could" land a KO punch?

    Considering how many times Lewis did that in his pro career ... and considering how many times Buster looked like he did in the Tyson fight (and he still had to get off the floor to win) ...

    Lewis KO 2

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  10. UFC2015

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    Naturally 9 times out of 10 I expect Lewis to beat douglas as he was the better fighter. But there is the odd chance he might come in disrespectful of his opponent like douglas.

    The Tokyo douglas will give lenni plenty of problems with his footwork, movement, Jab and his overall will to win and not be scared of dying. If he can find that face, fair chance lenni could be put to sleep. We are only talking of a Tokyo douglas here.
     
  11. Dubblechin

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    Who used a jab, footwork, movement to ever beat Lennox Lewis?
    Lennox Lewis lost two times in his entire career. Both were by one punch.

    If you didn't knock out Lennox Lewis with one punch ... he won. Literally.

    A number of guys outboxed Tyson, used footwork to beat Tyson, jabbed to beat Tyson. Buster was just the first.

    NOBODY did that to beat Lewis. Vitali came the closest ... and Lewis tore half his face off by the sixth round.

    Lewis was a half a foot taller than Tyson and he had a 13-inch REACH advantage over Tyson, and he was a BOMBER himself.

    Buster Douglas ISN'T OUTBOXING Lennox Lewis to win. Nobody did.

    And Buster Douglas didn't have the chin to stand up to Lewis' punches ... because Lewis would've been the one outboxing him.

    And if the bell hadn't rung when Tyson floored him, Douglas likely wouldn't have survived. He barely beat the count and needed the minute rest period. (On the night he was his best.)

    If the punch had come a minute earlier, we'd likely have seen him quit like he did against Mike "The Giant" White and Tony Tucker.
     
  12. Unforgiven

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    Good point. He was way ahead on points against White and slightly ahead against Tucker too though, so he had the ability to box with tall guys.


    Yeah, it always baffles me how people think the Tyson fight suggests that "Tokyo Douglas would be a handful against any ATG" when he was up against an unsually short and unusually aggressive heavyweight.

    Still, I think Douglas was good enough to trouble or beat Lewis, who I believe is overrated as a boxer too.
     
  13. swagdelfadeel

    swagdelfadeel Obsessed with Boxing

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    These are just Tyson fanatics trying to justify his loss to Douglas.
     
  14. Unforgiven

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    An OLD Tony Tucker went the distance with Lewis, as did an ageing Holyfield, and Mercer, and Mavrovic and Tua.
    I suppose you could argue that Douglas wasn't as durable but he was a better boxer than any of them (and their respective stages they faced Lewis) if we're taking him at his best.
     
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  15. Unforgiven

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    True, usually is.