Bute vs Johnson

bailey · Aug 8, 2011

BOGART said: ↑

I think Abraham has put some nice wins together guys like Taylor,Gevor, Ikeke, Miranda, Jantuah are all enough to make you say he's a good fighter, even if some of those guys were past their best. He's a good just not elite fighter like some thought.

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Remember Taylor was 1-3 in his last 4 fights before Abraham beat him with 2 KO losses, Jantuah was a smaller fighter. These names are no better than Andrade 1, Berrio, Magee, Bika, Miranda, Joppy, Andrade 2, Mendy, Brinkley

For me, I have Ward, Froch, Kessler, then Bute. I have no problem if you mix #2-4 around but I think Ward, based on resume and skill is the top guy in the division.

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Kessler and Froch have a far superior resume if you go on that alone and Bute has shown better skill than Froch and beaten common opponents more impressively

Like I was saying earlier, Bute was on track to possibly be the top guy at 168 but his recent opponents drag him down. His best wins have mostly come 3-4 years ago. He needs to fight one of the other guys I'd put in the top 4
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Ratings should be based on results. -
Kessler was #1 but lost to Ward, so Ward would have to go above Kessler. Bute had a better resume than Ward so stays above. Thats how The Ring had it at first. Now Froch shouldnt go above Kessler because Froch lost to Kessler.
Boxing Monthlys ratings have normally been very good and I agree with how they have things at present.

1: Lucian Bute* (Canada), 29-0, IBF

2: Andre Ward, 24-0, WBA

3: Mikkel Kessler (Denmark), 44-2

4: Carl Froch (GB), 28-1, WBC

Now if Ward beat Froch then Ward should go above Bute, but if Bute were to beat Kessler he would stay ahead as Froch lost to Kessler.
If Froch beats Ward than Froch would go to the top as he beat Kesslers conqueror
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Bute vs Johnson

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