Butterbean vs Ali from the Holmes fight

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Who wins?

  1. Ali from the Holmes fight

    50.0%
  2. Butterbean

    50.0%
  1. ikrasevic

    ikrasevic Who is ready to suffer for Christ (the truth)? Full Member

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    Did Muhammad Ali get in a wheelchair to fight Holmes?
     
  2. mr. magoo

    mr. magoo VIP Member Full Member

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    I don’t understand how bean could be favored. Ali at 38 was still better than some of the bums who Butterbean lost to. Yeah Ali was horribly diminished against Holmes but he was also in there with a top five all time great who was at his pinnacle.
     
  3. JackSilver

    JackSilver Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Yeah? Did you conduct the prefight medicals on him when you made this diagnosis, dr antman? Ha ha
     
  4. mark ant

    mark ant Canelo was never athletic Full Member

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    No there was footage on youtube and his speech ws impaired in interviews around that time.
     
  5. mark ant

    mark ant Canelo was never athletic Full Member

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    He had parkinson`s, this is insane!
     
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  6. mark ant

    mark ant Canelo was never athletic Full Member

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    He couldn`t even stand on one leg that long in the medical.

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  7. mr. magoo

    mr. magoo VIP Member Full Member

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    Yes he did… and butterbean had morbid obesity and a severe lack of skill.
     
  8. mark ant

    mark ant Canelo was never athletic Full Member

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    :duh
     
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  9. Dynamicpuncher

    Dynamicpuncher Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Butterbean would tire himself out against Ali doing the rope a dope, and Ali stops him in the middle rounds.
     
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  10. ikrasevic

    ikrasevic Who is ready to suffer for Christ (the truth)? Full Member

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    Mark (Hu)nt I am grateful to you for trying to explain everything to me, but I do not agree with you.
    Butterbean is not Larry Holmes ’80. No. I don't think Butterbean would win, least of all to knock out Muhammad Ali (because no one did; a man who is not healthy fought against Holmes RTD).
    Especially after round 4 Butterbean would be in trouble.
     
  11. djanders

    djanders Boxing Addict Full Member

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    IMHO, Ali, at that point in his career, would have used the Rope-a-dope with Butterbean. Every time Butterbean came at him Ali would have countered, which, even in Ali's diminished condition, would probably have worked against Butterbean. So, if Butterbean laid back, making it a very dull fight, and came rarely (likely after a few counters), Ali would have won a decision.
     
  12. swagdelfadeel

    swagdelfadeel Obsessed with Boxing

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    These votes for Ali cannot be serious. Their were rounds Ali literally wasn't throwing any punches.
     
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  13. cross_trainer

    cross_trainer Liston was good, but no "Tire Iron" Jones Full Member

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    It's surprising how even it is so far.

    EDIT: In that sense, it seems to the thread was successful; an "even" match from the forum's perspective.
     
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  14. swagdelfadeel

    swagdelfadeel Obsessed with Boxing

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    :lol: Butterbean, as unskilled as he was. would've defeated Ali with ease. And he's not even the worst fighter I'd favor to beat that version of Ali. A ridiculous proposition.
     
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  15. Barrf

    Barrf Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Allegedly (who knows), Holmes was pulling his shots when he realized Ali had absolutely nothing left.

    Going off how Butterbean was absolutely trying his best to knock Larry's head clean off in their fight, I don't think he'd have held anything back vs a faded Ali. Then again, Larry was pissing him off.
     
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