Calzaghe - Abraham

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  1. booradley

    booradley Mean People Kick Ass! Full Member

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    Joe would just slap the **** out of Abraham. I doubt if AA would land more than 1 or 2 clean shots over 12 rounds, and he is a good puncher, but you're not taking joe out that way.
     
    booradley, Jun 24, 2008
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  2. Cobbler

    Cobbler Shoemaker To The Stars Full Member

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    What's your point? We know who he's fought.

    As I said, he's never had anymore than a flash knockdown against anyone he's ever fought, many of whom were naturally bigger men than Abraham.
     
    Cobbler, Jun 24, 2008
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  3. Samurai

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    Calzaghe wins at least 8 rounds here.

    Too much speed and activity.
     
    Samurai, Jun 24, 2008
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  4. Tom_Tocca

    Tom_Tocca The Provider Full Member

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    Just keeping it realistic...
     
    Tom_Tocca, Jun 24, 2008
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  5. Stinky gloves

    Stinky gloves Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    The true is tha nobody took Joe away and nobody slapped Abraham for 12 rounds without serious punishment, so .... its either Calzaghe will use his speed to slap constantly 12 rounds for UD or he will go into the war and lose.
     
    Stinky gloves, Jun 24, 2008
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  6. Tom_Tocca

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    WHAT???

    He was clearly hurt vs Mitchell but showed grid, heart and determination showing what a great phsyche he has - beating Mitchell in the very same round...
     
    Tom_Tocca, Jun 24, 2008
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  7. Serenata

    Serenata Fit und geimpft Full Member

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    You´re absolutely right

    Really, Joe is Abrahams stylistic nightmare for sure. When watching the Ayala fight we all se how he struggles with fast moving fighters. As much as I am a fan of Arthur I don´t see a chance vor him. :|
     
    Serenata, Jun 24, 2008
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  8. drvooh

    drvooh Boxing Addict Full Member

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    :yep
     
    drvooh, Jun 24, 2008
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  9. Stinky gloves

    Stinky gloves Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Whats your point in saying that Calzghe fought BIG guys even LHW .... Hopkins is not real LHW he was MW whole carrier and he is 43 years old now. Abraham was full size SMW last fight ... the same size as most fighters Calzaghe fought so far.
     
    Stinky gloves, Jun 24, 2008
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  10. Cobbler

    Cobbler Shoemaker To The Stars Full Member

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    Very much doubt that Abraham was as big in the ring as the likes of Kessler or Lacy to be honest.
     
    Cobbler, Jun 24, 2008
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  11. BigBone

    BigBone Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Calzaghe by very wide UD.
     
    BigBone, Jun 24, 2008
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  12. Stinky gloves

    Stinky gloves Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Abraham is much shorter than Kessler, but almost the same size as Calzaghe. Pavlik is a few inches taller than Abraham and taller than Kessler and nobody uses height arguments between Abraham-Pavlik. Even Miranda is taller than Calzaghe .... so you have more arguments than size vise?
     
    Stinky gloves, Jun 24, 2008
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  13. Cobbler

    Cobbler Shoemaker To The Stars Full Member

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    Do you have any arguments at all?

    If you want to make the argument that Abraham will knock out Calzaghe, try actually presenting some arguments.

    I've presented what I think: Abraham has a decent knock out record but at a lower weight and against lower class opposition. Calzaghe has a chin proven repeatedly against big punchers at a higher weight.

    Now what was your arguement for Abraham knocking out Calzaghe?
     
    Cobbler, Jun 24, 2008
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  14. Stinky gloves

    Stinky gloves Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Abraham was the same weight as most punchers Calzaghe fought so far. Kessler and Lacy are the only comparable punchers on recent Calzaghe resume, Lacy was overhyped, no boxing skills at all, so only Kessler may last the comparison.

    The true is Kessler is much better boxer than Abraham and I'm not saying that Abraham wins for sure but I'm testing possibilities what could happen in the fight. Kessler was pretty easily outboxed and Abraham may be outboxed in even worse way.

    However if Abraham catch Joe a few times the fight may be completely different in his favor. The only question is ... does Abraham have enough skills to neutralize Calzaghe's speed and workrate?
     
    Stinky gloves, Jun 24, 2008
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  15. Stinky gloves

    Stinky gloves Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    22 votes for Calzaghe UD, no one for KO .... is Calzaghe one dimensional or he does not have power at all .... so nobody believe he can KO smaller man without speed and with very limited boxing skills?
     
    Stinky gloves, Jun 24, 2008
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