Calzaghe amongst the best ever? - disregarding legacy for a moment...

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  1. Beatboxer

    Beatboxer Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Well if people consider that Old ******* Hopkins as being worthy of being considered then JC certainly is at least worthy of consideration
     
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  2. McGrain

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    Yes, good post. The best ever Cruiser (clearly) who then became an ATG heavy. Worthy of consideration in this discussion.
     
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  3. Rock0052

    Rock0052 Loyal Member Full Member

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    JC definitely merits consideration. Amazing fighter.
     
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  4. Robbi

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    Hopkins has a better record than Calzaghe. His opposition over 20 defenses at middleweight is better than Calzaghe's at super-middleweight. Not by a country mile, but its better.

    People may well say De La Hoya and Trinidad were smaller fighters moving up in weight, but both were quality fighters. Trinidad was the favourite over Hopkins mainly due to his power. Echols, Jackson, Allen, Joppy, etc. Also solid contenders. Apart from Lacy and Kessler, Calzaghe has mostly fought C level opponents.

    If thats not good enough. Hopkins went up two weights after coming off two defeats and beat Tarver. Lets not forget, Hopkins wasn't given a prayer against Tarver.

    And while Wright wasn't a natural light-heavyweight, Hopkins was hardly massive at the weight either. Again, Wright was a highly skilled defensive operator who had never been beaten so decisevely before.
     
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  5. rydersonthestorm

    rydersonthestorm Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Eubank,reid,woodhall where not c level.
     
    rydersonthestorm, Nov 5, 2007
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  6. China_hand_Joe

    China_hand_Joe Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Calzaghe is probably a league above Duran.

    Look, I am going to come clean. Calzaghe is a league above every other boxer in history. Jones with intangibles, Duran with more speed and skill. I'm not going to conceal my true beliefs anymore just to sound more reasonable.

    Two years ago what is now 'fact' amongst all boxing fans regarding Calzaghe would have been laughed at two years ago. In another decade Calzaghe will be a lock for the top 15 of all time.
     
    China_hand_Joe, Nov 6, 2007
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  7. Decebal

    Decebal Lucian Bute Full Member

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    Finally you're done with sitting on the fence about Joe! Jeez...what took you so long?
     
    Decebal, Nov 6, 2007
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  8. Tigers Only

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    :deal::deal::deal::deal::deal::deal::deal:

    What a talent Calzaghe was. He had everything.
     
    Tigers Only, Jul 3, 2018
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  9. C.J.

    C.J. Boxings Living Legend revered & respected by all Full Member

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    Calzaghe could not throw a legal scoring punch He SLAPPED like a girl End of story
     
    C.J., Jul 3, 2018
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  10. Halfordscream

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    Joe is a step above say a Murray Sutherland. Not much more than that though.
     
    Halfordscream, Jul 3, 2018
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  11. C.J.

    C.J. Boxings Living Legend revered & respected by all Full Member

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    Slappy Calzaghe isn't fit to carry B Hops Jockistrap
     
    C.J., Jul 3, 2018
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  12. Tigers Only

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    Slappy Calzaghe gave Hopkins a boxing slapping lesson :deal:

    Your comment is very stupid when Calzaghe beat Hopkins' ass

    And before you talk about age. - Calzaghe was 36 and at the end of his career and had badly damaged hands- he only had one fight 6 months after it and retired.. Hopkins was 43, and carried on for 9 years after! Beat Pavlik in his very next fight and went on to unify world titles and beat Pascal, Cloud, Shumenov,etc

    Past prime almost retired,, injured Calzaghe schooled Hopkins in his own backyard! jeez imagine what he'd have done to him in his prime!
     
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    Tigers Only, Jul 3, 2018
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  13. Loudon

    Loudon Loyal Member Full Member

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    Why on earth have you bumped a thread from almost 11 years ago you nut??

    No, Joe didn't school Bernard.

    I despair.
     
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  14. Tigers Only

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    Why the hell not! I'm not an ordinary Joe like yourself I don't conform to 'normal'.

    And yes Calzaghe schooled Hopkins in his own backyard deal with it.
     
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