Calzaghe gaining these wins...

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by Amsterdam, Jan 29, 2008.


  1. coronacards

    coronacards Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Mayweather has titles from 130-154.

    Besides, beating Hopkins, Dawson, and Woods would not put Calzaghe above RJJ...

    RJJ beat a better Hopkins, a better Woods, and did a more impressive thing by winning titles at 160,168,175, and Heavyweight.
     
  2. Marnoff

    Marnoff Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I don't believe he would be over Mayweather.
     
  3. ocelot

    ocelot Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Exactly. The style match-up is a bad one for Calzaghe and ideal for Hopkins.
     
  4. coronacards

    coronacards Well-Known Member Full Member

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    hahahahaha. I agree. How could this guy ever be considered #1??? He spent 9 years of his prime (1997-2006) fighting nobody!
     
  5. ThePlugInBabies

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    woods is a vastly superior boxer today than what he was back when he fought RJJ. he has title fight experience and far better victorys on his resume.

    secondly i think it's harsh on calzaghe to go "but oh look how many weights floyd jumped" when you consider joe can only go realistically to LHW. imagine what CW's like haye, cunningham, mormeck etc. would do to a SMW.
     
  6. lillarry

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    If we are talking since 1990, my top 5 would be

    1. Pernell Whittaker
    2. RJJ
    3. Holyfield
    4.PBF
    5. JCC
     
  7. ThePlugInBabies

    ThePlugInBabies ♪ ♫ Full Member

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    holyfield? why?
     
  8. coronacards

    coronacards Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Um...Roy Jones went to Heavyweight from Middleweight, so did James Toney...

    And Clinton Woods can BARELY squeak by Glen Johnson. Besides, Jones just completely wrecked him...

    There is NO COMPARISON between RJJ and Calzaghe. I mean give me a break.

    Roy Jones fought from 155-193...so don't talk about Calzaghe going to Cruiserweight as a huge deal. That's why RJJ is superior.

    He did it. He fought and won from 155-193. JC won at 168, against lesser competition, in less impressive fashion.

    No matter what he does, he will not be RJJ, and the JC fans just have to accept that.
     
  9. coronacards

    coronacards Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Um...if PBF's titles are a sham because of weak opposition, what do you call JC's??? He fought MUCH lesser competition.

    And Floyd beating DLH in a close decision...how does that rate to beating Robin Reid by a close and arguable decision???

    Number 5 is fine, number 1 is outrageous...

    I don't think Floyd has fought all-time great competition, but he's fought better than JC has. Between that, and the multiple weight division titles, PBF has the superior resume. Also, bear in mind that Floyd is about 5 or 6 years younger...
     
  10. LiamE

    LiamE Boxing Addict Full Member

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    *cough* steroids *cough*
     
  11. coronacards

    coronacards Well-Known Member Full Member

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    *cough* you're just talking **** because you can't combat the argument with anything logical *cough*
     
  12. ThePlugInBabies

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    james toney was just about the most boiled down middleweight we have ever seen and roid, sorry i mean roy jones, well there are a lot of questions that people would like honest answers to about his HW adventure.

    getting wrecked by an ATG is no great shame. especially the H2H ATG.

    who said there was? you seem to be doing all the comparing here.

    where did i dispute that chuckles? please point out to me where i claim joe is better than RJJ career wise.

    joe wasn't blessed with RJJ's KO ability but he has only dropped serious rounds where he endangered the outcome of the fight to reid and kessler.

    who exactly are you arguing with here? again, where did you get the impression i was saying he was better than RJJ?
     
  13. lillarry

    lillarry Well-Known Member Full Member

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    The man was arguably the most dominant heavyweight of the 90s...a huge win over Tyson, his triology with Bowe, and wins over Foreman and Buster Douglas are huge imo...Its subjective so I know people may not feel like I feel about Holyfield in the 90s
     
  14. TFFP

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    Corona is getting paranoid :lol:

    He can't bare to see Joe Calzaghe getting credit, so he has taken to arguing with himself
     
  15. coronacards

    coronacards Well-Known Member Full Member

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    All I am saying is:

    It is ridiculous to claim a man who dominated a weak division while avoiding big fights for many of his prime years (1997-2006) could EVER be deemed the best fighter of a generation. That's just impossible.