Mini-Tyson Jeff 'left hook' Lacy would disagree. Calzaghe stole his soul in the boxing ring and Roy Jones got the very same VIP treatment despite fighting on foreign soil with corrupt officals :yep:heythumbsupatsch
I vote for a Team "Elite" forum of their own. It can be like the lounge was, but you know, strictly about topics that most people no longer care about but that they care deeply for. There they can rehash the same threads over and over again without shitting up the general forum. It will also give them a forum for their Calzaghe fanfiction (stories where Calzaghe is the protagonist in such works of fiction as Star Wars or even an alternate universe where Calzaghe is generally respected instead of a punchline). The Team "Elite" forum could also be a repository for HEADBANGERS' opus and uncomfortably erotic: "50 Shades of Calzaghe" and the follow up, "50 More Shades of Zaghe".
Calzaghe was only a couple years younger than Jones and also past his prime with ruined hands. Suddenly Joe became "young and fresh" when this fight was announced. It should have been a mutual retirement fight but Roy doesn't know when to quit. It's the usual American hood BS denying European fighters any credit (and I live in America). They usually just ignore the Hopkins fight entirely or call it a robbery.
The troll appears to be you Kirk, I realise that you are trying to raise your profile by posting on a Team Elite Superthread due to the huge exposure we command on a global basis but if you are really wanting to catapult yourself into ESB superstardom then quit hiding behind the sofa, pull up a chair and enter into noble round table discussion with the most respected force in the boxing fraternity :amenartytime:mannyics:welcome:iamwiths::readthre:
Having seen Roy's highlight reels, Joe's son was scared for his father's life and urged him not to take this fight, but Joe said "don't worry son, the Roy Jones in those videos isn't the same Roy Jones that I'm fighting". :yep
Zaglovers will claim joe was way past his best, and then when asked if Kessler was his best performance they agree. And then they shut the fcuk up when they realise they have just ****ed up with their reasoning, joe cant have been shot2**** 2 years after his best ever performance against Kess - he was simply post prime. awesome exposure of calnuthuggery.
now watch Cal nuthuggers deny these words, thus invoking the Cowardzaghe paradox of lies. - If Calzaghe is telling the truth, he has turned his nuthuggers into incompetent liars. - If Calzaghe is telling a lie, then he is confirming that he is a lying cowardzaghe. cal nuthuggers lose both ways. ....this is turning into an awesome thread.
And Joe couldn't even drop him with his feather slaps. What would Calslappy's KO% have been had he not hid out in the UK getting gift stoppages over a bunch of cab drivers and sanitation workers?
jones was so far past his best....but it was actually a close fight until rnd 7 when jones got cut....I think it was an even fight.
Revisionist fanboy twaddle :rofl checkout the pre-fight predictions to get a closer look at reality :deal Bernard Hopkins- Former two-division world champion Fought Joe Calzaghe on April 19, 2008 and lost by split decision Fought Roy Jones Jr. May 22, 1993 and lost by unanimous decision Jones by unanimous decision based on his speed and power. Ricky Hatton- IBO & Ring Magazine junior welterweight world champion Roy has seen better days and I think that Joe will be too fast for Roy. Joe will outbox Roy and win by points. Im going with Joe. Lennox Lewis- Former heavyweight champion "Jones has unbelievable speed and Calzaghe's never fought anyone like him. Jones likes it when his opponent comes to him and unfortunately for Calzaghe, that's exactly what he does; comes to his opponent and is right in their face. I pick Jones on points, but I think itll be a very close fight." Jeff Lacy- Former IBF super middleweight champion Fought Joe Calzaghe March 4, 2006 and lost by unanimous decision Its going to be a hard fight to pick. If Jones doesn't stay on the ropes and give Calzaghe angles and lots of movement I'm going to go with Jones by decision. Roy can't stay on the ropes and give Joe the chance to throw his slapping punches. This is a great fight for Jones to win and setup a big money fight again with Hopkins! John Ruiz- Former two-time WBA world heavyweight champion Fought Jones March 1, 2003 and lost by unanimous decision "I like Calzaghe by decision. He's still a hungry and aggressive fighter. He keeps coming at you. The problem for him is that Jones will run all night. He won't stay still. Calzaghe has to cut off the ring. Calzaghe's a gentleman in and out of the ring. I think Jones saw the fight against Hopkins and was motivated to fight Calzaghe." Peter Manfredo, Jr- Former EBA, IBU and WBO NABO light middleweight champion Fought Joe Calzaghe April 7, 2007 and lost by KO in 3rd round "Calzaghe by 12 round decision. Joe doesn't hit hard enough to knock out Jones. Calzaghe is very busy and Jones doesn't like somebody on him for 12 rounds. Personally, I'd like to see Jones do it. I always root for the underdog because I'm an underdog. Both win in the end, though. They're both making millions of dollars and fighting in the boxing Mecca of the world, Madison Square Garden. There are no losers in this fight." Glen Johnson- Former IBF, IBO and Ring Magazine light heavyweight champion Fought Roy Jones September 25, 2004 and won by KO in 9th round Roy Jones will win. I believe Calzaghe fights an amateur style. He throws a lot of slappy punches. Roy throws much more meaningful punches. In general, Calzaghe will throw more punches than Roy, but Roys will be harder hitting. Unless the judges are blind, they will see that the harder punches make Jones the winner. They should see that Roy Jones hard-hitting punches make the difference. Oscar De La Hoya- Olympic gold medalist and 10-time world champion Calzaghe will beat Jones by a unanimous decision. Joe is going to close the door on Roys boxing career. Manny Pacquiao- Ring Magazine pound-for-pound champion Calzaghe by decision. Joe is hungrier and a little younger." Shane Mosley- Former lightweight, welterweight and junior middleweight champion of the world Roy has trouble with southpaws and Calzaghe is a great southpaw. Roy is a fighter that is always on his toes and I think that when Hopkins fought Calzaghe, and was moving a lot, it gave Joe a lot of problems. I think Roy can do the same thing. I think he can cause problems for Joe with his speed. Im not really sure on Roy right now. I have to lean towards Joe on this one. You cant count Roy out, but I think Joe will get Roy with a lot of combinations and out point him. Roy back in the day would have destroyed Joe, but now Joe will outpoint him with a lot of activity and win the fight. Vernon Forrest - WBC welterweight champion Roy Jones is still the best fighter in my era and still arguably one of the best fighters period. Roy with his speed can match Calzaghe, and he has power. So the power and speed is with Roy. Roy by decision. Amir Khan- Commonwealth lightweight champion "I'm a big fan of Roy Jones, but I have to go with Calzaghe in a great fight." Paulie Malignaggi- Former IBF junior welterweight champion. "It's a hard fight to pick. I thought Calzaghe at first because, but maybe he's too much for Roy right now. But based on what Joe just said about the three Brits beating the three Americans (Calzaghe-Jones, Hatton-Malignaggi, Haye-Barrett), I'm pulling Roy home.....Jones by decision." Mickey Ward- Former WBU intercontinental light welterweight title holder and the WBU light welterweight title holder "It's a pick 'em fight. I'd pick Calzaghe but you can't count Jones out. I can't pick a winner in this fight. They're both up in age. Jones is coming off a good fight (vs. Trinidad). I like Calzaghe to outbox Jones, who has been knocked out twice, but he didn't show any effects in his last fight." Winky Wright- Former world junior middleweight champion I think Roy is going to win. I think that his punches are going to be sharper than Calzaghes and I think that Roy is a harder puncher. I think it might go all 12 rounds, but if somebody gets stopped I think its Calzaghe late in the fight. Freddie Roach- Trainer Calzaghe by decision. WRITERS: Dan Rafael- ESPN.com Although Calzaghe is the favorite, I think Jones' style and speed -- he's still fast -- are going to give him problems. I think it will be a tough, close fight but I'm going with the upset special. I like Jones to pull it out on a close decision. Gordon Marino- Wall Street Journal Jones over Calzaghe. This is a fascinating fight. Jones is still quick and with his awkward style and dangerous punching power is able to freeze very active opponents like Calzaghe. I'm picking Jones by a decision. Tim Smith- New York Daily News Roy Jones has good power and I think that will offset the volume of punches that Calzaghe throws. Calzaghe has a good chin so I don't see him getting knocked out. I like Jones in a decision. Nick Parkinson- Daily Star Sunday Just like Bernard Hopkins did against Kelly Pavlik, I expect Roy Jones to find some of his old form in his best performance in a few years against Joe Calzaghe. I think Jones will get on his bike, forcing Calzaghe to hunt him down and giving the Welshman some worrying moments with his fast fists on the counter attack. However, I believe Calzaghe is fresher and will land enough leather to edge a split decision, leading to calls for the pair to do it again, in Wales. Calzaghe on points. Franklin McNeil- Newark Star Ledger On paper, Calzaghe should not have much difficulty getting by Jones. Calzaghe is a southpaw, and Jones has had his most difficult outings against non-orthodox fighters. And though each man has quite a few miles on his tires, Jones has logged a bit more. The physical edge goes to Calzaghe, but stylistically Jones constant movement could prove to be beneficial. If Jones can control the pace, make Calzaghe miss, score with counter shots and his stamina holds up, he will win. Jones wins by decision. Alan Hubbard- Independent on Sunday Calazghe should scrape a narrow points verdict, possibly another spilt decision, a la Bernard Hopkins, in an untidy fight. Jones may no longer have the residual firepower to hurt or harass him but Calzaghe has surely been distracted by the legal wrangling following his split from long-time UK promoter Frank ****** and the concerns of co-promoting this fight. He has struggled to repeat punch-perfect form he attained against Jeff Lacy, but is wily and resilient enough to keep Jones at a southpaw arm's length. He is already established as Britain's most enduring post world war champion and victory over Jones would cement his deserved claim to be the outstanding British fighter of the modern era. Bobby Cassidy- Newsday I like Roy Jones in the 11th round TKO. Calzaghe does not have the power to keep Jones honest. I think by the second half of the fight Jones will be picking him a part. Calzaghe looked so good against Hopkins because Hopkins didn't have the firepower to slow him down. But Jones has both speed and power. In other fights, Calzaghe has been able to adjust to one of those assets; he won't be able to adjust to both, especially from a fighter like Jones. Keith Idec- Herald News Calzaghe by unanimous decision. Calzaghe might be vulnerable to Jones' counter-punches by being so busy, but he has always responded well when hurt (see victories over Bernard Hopkins, Byron Mitchell and Kabary Saleem). Jones still has superior hand speed and power, but the confident Calzaghe also performs according to his level of opposition, another bad sign for a rejuvenated Jones. John Dillion- Daily Express, London "Calzaghe by decision because he is so much younger, is quick if not hugely powerful and has a big heart that means he always finds a way to win." Michael David Smith- FanHouse.com (AOL Sports) American fans were slow to catch on to just what a phenomenal fighter Calzaghe is. But he already beat one American legend in April with a decision over Bernard Hopkins, and he'll do it again in November with a decision over Jones.
I don't even like Calzaghe. Nor do I like Roy Jones. I just get tired of American couch potatoes instantly dismissing European fighters because they don't look or talk like them. Calzaghe was 36 years old, Roy was 39. They would have been a couple grades apart in school. You guys talk like Joe was 23 and Roy was 48. Age was barely a factor. Calzaghe had nagging injuries of his own. They were both supposed to retire. It's not Joe's fault Roy kept fighting until it became a comedy routine. About Kessler, most fighters have the biggest name on their resume well after they hit their physical prime because during their physical prime they're climbing the ranks. Pointless comment.