Calzaghe is way overrated.

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by Shane, Jan 10, 2008.


  1. saul_ir34

    saul_ir34 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Actually he is way underrated. If Calzhage has a good night there is not one guy out there that can beat him. Its almost as if he is in another level.
    I never realized that till he fought Kessler who was a real threat.
     
  2. inchpunch

    inchpunch Active Member Full Member

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    Something interesting unique to boxing fans is that when someone doesn't have something like a win over Ali in his resume, he can't get respect with some people. Being undefeated for 17 years in a sport, amateurs and pros combined, is a greater accomplishment than a win over a fighter with great name recognition. Many good, not even great boxers beat an ATG at some point in history. You may come up with a gameplan to expose a weakness in a star fighter, like Schmeling against Louis. You may come up with one all - time heroic effort against a great fighter who got distracted before the bout, like Douglas - Tyson. Many did someting like that, but how many fighters remained undefeated since age 17 and defended their title for ten years? Besides, Eubank, Reid and Kessler are very good fighters, except RJJ, I cannot see any other MW beat all three of them clearly.
     
  3. TFFP

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    Excellent post

    To be defeated for 17 years is incredible, no matter how people try to spin it
     
  4. Betty Swollocks

    Betty Swollocks James 'Lights Out' Toney Full Member

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    a faded and weight-drained Eubank
    Sheika and Woodhall
    Edged a controvertial decision over Reid
    B level Lacy (yes many were making him out to be special before the fight, some of us know he was being overhyped..see his fight with Sheika)
    Kessler - he's good, but how good we still don't know. Calzaghe's legacy will be affected by how well Kessler does from now.

    those are the big wins.
    Calzaghe is very good. Is he being overrated now? Absolutely.
     
  5. LeadLeftHook

    LeadLeftHook Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Hes not overrated, he his the best in the division right now. Only thing is he never too on the best when he shouldve few yrs ago. Right now he beats Hopkins, but a 43 yr old Hopkins who is shell of himself.
     
  6. You realize Joe has been calling him out for well over half a decade and that Hopkins was the one running right?

    That's 1826+ days or 260+ weeks at the absolute minimum.
     
  7. peter5

    peter5 Marco.A.Barrera Full Member

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    I was thinking of exactly the same comparison myself! :lol: Its a shame so many people have suddenly opened their eyes at the same time:yep
     
  8. Bomber

    Bomber Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Overrated? All depends on how the consensus that views such things deem his actual talents to be. If some turned round and said he is the greatest fighter ever that would be overrated. If on the other hand like a section of American fans ( Not the educated US fans just that fanboy/narrowminded group) think, he is a punk fool with no skills, that would be under rated.

    The reality is though that Calzaghe is a phenom. He is a top quality elite fighter who has performed very well for a number of years. Along with these skills, he has been avoided by a few greats along the way.

    So with things in perspective, one can say he isnt overrated. Its only a number of dim witted fools who out of a perverse jingoistic mindset try and drag down his name as a fighter with illogical arguments based around their own insecurities and a deep seated need to be noticed. The great sadness is that this group of people deep down know they talk **** but cant quite get out of the ******ed fog of stupidity.
     
  9. FRKO

    FRKO "A MAN" Full Member

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    Threads like this make me mad. You don't see the talent in Calzaghe? Then go watch another sport. Clearly, boxing isn't your thing and you don't know **** about it.
     
  10. C HOP

    C HOP The World Awaits Full Member

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    why make a idiotic thread like this! anybody with a eye for boxing can see calzaghe is a great fighter!

    Sugar Ray leonard
    Jermain Taylor
    RJJ
    Nigel Benn
    Chris Eubank
    even mike tyson all said calzaghe was a great fighter
     
  11. PhillyShell

    PhillyShell Active Member Full Member

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    i disagree. defeating 17 years worth of tomato cans (i'm not saying calzaghe did that, i'm just using an example) is not a a greater accomplishment that beating a highly skilled fighter.
     
  12. Boxer-puncher

    Boxer-puncher Active Member Full Member

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    Calzaghe is just a victim of his weak era but he's certainly not overrated.. He's done all he can and he's worthy..
     
  13. Zakman

    Zakman ESB's Chinchecker Full Member

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    On the contrary, if anything - he's underrated.
     
  14. Fab2333

    Fab2333 Needs to Get It 2Gether Full Member

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    I dont think so, he is right where he needs 2 b.

    Reason why I say that is, if people are going to say Roy Jones fought bums and he didnt beat no1.
    But then say Calzaghe is a beast, I dot understand that. If people judge RJ and talk about his resume, then wat do you say about Calzaghe's?
     
  15. Shane

    Shane Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Calzaghe does not deserve to be in the top ten pound for pound rankings. He has yet to defeat a top 10 pound for pound boxer, unlike some of the greats like mayweather, pacquiao ,marquez ,hopkins and many more.

    He also had never won a title out of his weight class witch he has sat in his whole career.

    Boxer's of that caliber who have proven they can beat other pound for pound boxers should be rated above someone who sat in his backyard and never beat a top ten boxer his entire career.

    What ever happened to the theory (To be the best you have to beat the best.)