Calzaghe's Resume - The Truth

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  1. sonny73

    sonny73 Active Member Full Member

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    To be honest I've stopped caring what American boxing writers and their public think about Calzaghe,especially since he has such high respect from the people that really matter,other boxers,including all the American ones aswel.The only people you really hear criticising Calzaghe and his 'resume' are either guys with an agenda or people who have little or no knowledge about the art of boxing or the business side of it.In the eyes of the people that matter he has and always will be one of the very elite in the art of boxing.
     
  2. Amsterdam

    Amsterdam Boris Christoff Full Member

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    It's beyond me also, as if these ABC titles are the 'end all' in ranking. The fighters matter over the belts and Calzaghe's WBO strap that we won in a fight with Eubank meant a HELL of a lot more than Ottke's WBA and IBF that he fraudulently held onto.

    What makes me even more boggled is that historically for the SMW division, the WBO technically had the most play for the best SMW's going for it, Eubank - Benn and what not.

    It's not that Eubank or Benn were cemented ATG's, but they are notable 'near-great' elite's. Toney always gets that overrated B- level Barkley mentioned as one of his signature wins, yet it took him 10 rounds to what it took Benn 1 round, despite Benn being hurt in the process.

    The whole view is just skewed.

    Calzaghe is one of the most looked over fighter in history. Even if he wasn't 'ducked', he sure was looked over as a major threat that brought no money from most of the competition that he gets BLAMED for not fighting. It's sickening.

    It's like they expected Joe to fight for free, and his promoters to get nothing, that simply is not the way it works.

    But whatever, he's going to close the show big against Kessler and a few others and his hardcore fanbase that has sat through all of this bull**** from ignorant boxing fans will have the last laugh.:good
     
  3. Boro chris

    Boro chris Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    The problem with you is that you WANT to believe that Joe is a ***/coward or whatever.
     
  4. China_hand_Joe

    China_hand_Joe Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I made a thread months and months and months ago "In twelves (or possibly six) months time, people will claim "Calzaghe ducked Taylor". This was after the Ouma fight, we all remember that interview...a few months on, as expected, there were those claiming Calzaghe didn't push for a Taylor fight, that he effectively ducked Taylor.
     
  5. Carlos Primera

    Carlos Primera Boxing Addict Full Member

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    out of topic, but i think that was actually an abe lincoln quote

    calzaghe has a good resume, considering SMW during his reign was'nt stacked with the best competition. he fought what was available. reid, sheika, lacy etc... were at one point ranked top 10 fighters in that weight.

    if were talking about fraudulent reigns/ resumes we should start with ottke.
     
  6. chimba

    chimba Off the Somali Coast Full Member

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    Are you comparing Pacquaio to Joe Cals opposition??
     
  7. kg0208

    kg0208 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I am saying that not knowing who a fighter is doesn't mean they aren't good. No one knew who Pacquiao was before he took MAB out. Obviously he was good BEFORE that fight. Alot of those Euro fighters languish in obscurity, but can really fight. They just never got their "Barrera" for a coming out party.
     
  8. chimba

    chimba Off the Somali Coast Full Member

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    Are you now insunuating that some of JCals beaten opponents could have been as great as someone like PaC p4p??? Its just they never got a chance...Isnt JCAL their supposed MAB and they lost??
     
  9. kg0208

    kg0208 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    No, I am simply saying that just because you have never heard of a fighter, doesn't mean they are not good. If Calzaghe had not been there, they may be Calzaghe right now. Like Mario Veit or Robin Reid. Good fighters no one knows about.

    As for Calzaghe being their "Barrera". Perhaps so. But not everyone beats their MAB. And that doesn't change that they are good fighters. Good fighters lose to great fighters.....hell, great fighters lose to great fighters all the time.
     
  10. MrStayman

    MrStayman Active Member Full Member

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    What if we watched the fighter and think he's not good? You can NOT convince me, who watched several of Calzaghe's lame duck opponents fight, that he has even close to a SEMI respectable resume.

    It's sad that people suddenly blame others for not viewing Calzaghes opposition as a basis for their incorrect perception of Calzaghes HAND PICKED opposition. Isn't it even remotely possible that the critics are RIGHT this time?
     
  11. kg0208

    kg0208 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    That happens. I wouldn't bother trying to if thats the case....learned my lesson on that.
     
  12. MrStayman

    MrStayman Active Member Full Member

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    Do you believe he has a respectable resume?
     
  13. kg0208

    kg0208 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Yup. Alot of those fighters were ranked by Ring at SMW when Calzaghe beat them. That's ok by me.
     
  14. drvooh

    drvooh Boxing Addict Full Member

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    As Amsterdam said = :thumbsup
     
  15. MrStayman

    MrStayman Active Member Full Member

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    Alright, care to name a current champion (lightweight division or higher) who think does not have a respectable resume? Just curious about your standards.