Campbell v garcia

Discussion in 'British Boxing Forum' started by micker1, Aug 20, 2020.

  1. micker1

    micker1 Active Member Full Member

    Joined:
    May 31, 2010
    Messages:
    530
    Likes Received:
    380
    Who do we think will win this. I think garcia wins this. Campbell has been very unlucky that he fought linares with a lot on his mind and lomachenko who is different level to everyone.

    If garcia is a hype job then Campbell does him over. I think the timing might be against Campbell in this one as well as inactivity and the American judges.

    Campbell is the away fighter in this one so would be unbelievable if he managed to pull off the victory.
     
    Contro and im sparticus like this.
  2. mark ant

    mark ant Canelo was never athletic Full Member

    Joined:
    May 4, 2017
    Messages:
    36,653
    Likes Received:
    16,582
    Cambell is far better than Garcia and will probably expose him, Garcia doesn`t probe or feint with his lead hand to set up his shots and only has a hook, he doesn`t land enough right hands, Cambell is much more two-fisted.
     
    im sparticus and micker1 like this.
  3. im sparticus

    im sparticus There Ye Go. Full Member

    Joined:
    May 16, 2010
    Messages:
    5,748
    Likes Received:
    3,768
    I havnt watched too much of Garcia yet. Seen one or two of his fights and some reel stuff but the fact that he hasn't fought a competative opp yet is why I'm struggling to give a honest account of his skills. Campbell on the otherhand, we have seen him out of his comfort zone a few times, fighting high level fighters and will travel.
    I know Garcia had a lot of am fights but this is a step up for him whilst the same cannot be said for luke.
    Luke will be the away fighter but I think the fact there are no crowds will favour Luke.if it was in UK I would highly favour Luke but I'm still picking Campbell for a pts win
     
  4. Willis Brown

    Willis Brown Member Full Member

    Joined:
    Apr 30, 2017
    Messages:
    413
    Likes Received:
    378
    Garcia has expertly manufactured a massive social network presence but I am not sold on his actual ability, I have Campbell a favourite in this fight .
     
    Suspect.chin likes this.
  5. Smudge_

    Smudge_ Teak tough Full Member

    Joined:
    Jan 23, 2018
    Messages:
    2,247
    Likes Received:
    3,254
  6. Furey

    Furey EST & REG 2009 Full Member

    Joined:
    Oct 18, 2009
    Messages:
    16,680
    Likes Received:
    6,790
    Campbell beats him all day for me..... that said he'll probably get robbed if he doesn't get the stoppage.
     
    Suspect.chin and Wizbit1013 like this.
  7. Pure Silk

    Pure Silk New Member banned Full Member

    Joined:
    Dec 23, 2020
    Messages:
    12
    Likes Received:
    8
    I rate Campbell highly and from the small amount Ive seen on Garcia I can't see him losing to this young kid. 11/4 is nice odds.
     
    N17 likes this.
  8. N17

    N17 Loyal Member Full Member

    Joined:
    Feb 16, 2013
    Messages:
    36,270
    Likes Received:
    33,092
    I think Campbell has an excellent chance, he has the experience, he is a southpaw, he has been in with better fighters, he has the pedigree with his Olympic gold, he isn't worn and hasn't been battered over the years.

    Campbell also has 16 stoppages in his 20 wins, so although he isn't the biggest puncher he as the power to make Garcia respect him.

    I think this could be a mistake from Garcia and his team, this is just about touching the top of the division, they haven't gone near or really pushed for Teo, Loma, Davis, Commey, Haney and maybe even Kambosos.

    Campbell is right on the edge of those lot in my opinion, he is basically a fringe contender.


    We just haven't seen enough of Garcia, he hasn't been in a real fight yet, what happens when he starts getting hit, I mean really hit, he loves himself a bit, he loves social media and all that goes with it and I wonder if we might see a Victor Ortiz type moment if his face starts getting messed up.

    Look, Garcia might be the real deal and even if he beats Campbell he still has a lot to prove in that division but doing some flashy stuff on pads on Insta isn't proving you're an elite fighter, you have to go it and beat the best.

    Campbell isn't the best in the division but he is in the top 10 so we shall see but I really think if Campbell is fit and well and really believes in himself out there then he has an excellent chance.
     
  9. crixus85

    crixus85 Well-Known Member Full Member

    Joined:
    Oct 18, 2014
    Messages:
    1,806
    Likes Received:
    1,638
    Campbell has loads of experience boxing away from home with his extensive amateur days and 24 rounds with Lima and Linares.
    The big factor against him is the “extra” help Garcia “takes in,” from training with Reynoso and Alvarez!
     
    Greg Price99 likes this.
  10. Scissors

    Scissors Posts are sponsored by Matchroom Full Member

    Joined:
    Feb 11, 2018
    Messages:
    9,364
    Likes Received:
    14,007
    I think Campbell is a live dog in the fight and certainly expect it to be competitive right up until the 10-12th rounds where I expect the younger, fresher Garcia to pick up the rounds and Campbell to feel the effects of weight draining.
     
  11. Twentyman

    Twentyman You dog nonce! banned Full Member

    Joined:
    Apr 20, 2016
    Messages:
    7,197
    Likes Received:
    14,789
    Absolutely bang on to highlight the weight draining. He's 33 and still boiling down to make the weight he would have been getting to in 2013...that to me is just daft. Despite all his pedigree and experience he will be have less sting on his shots and he will be a lot less durable especially later on. Against a young strong kid in Garcia he is at a significant disadvantage. He is getting stopped imo and all the talk afterwards will be about Campbell having to move up etc
     
    aaaaa and Scissors like this.
  12. Scissors

    Scissors Posts are sponsored by Matchroom Full Member

    Joined:
    Feb 11, 2018
    Messages:
    9,364
    Likes Received:
    14,007
    He’s still quality though, I just think at his age it’s taking away that little bit of pop he might have had.
     
    Twentyman likes this.
  13. aaaaa

    aaaaa Ash banned Full Member

    Joined:
    Dec 19, 2020
    Messages:
    4,893
    Likes Received:
    9,324
    100%. The amount of times you see one of our fighters lose then blame the weight, saying they need to move up etc. Selby, Smith, Frampton, Brook... the list goes on.
     
    Twentyman likes this.
  14. Willis Brown

    Willis Brown Member Full Member

    Joined:
    Apr 30, 2017
    Messages:
    413
    Likes Received:
    378
    This is a make or break fight for Campbell but one where I am leaning to him winning based on my belief that Garcia is reasonably untested ! I have watched umpteen videos of Garcia hitting a reflex bag and remain unimpressed all I see is him with his chin out to dry ! I have to temper my criticism of Garcia by the fact that he is now in the Canelo camp and I see a physical improvement in his build and no doubt will have a game plan. I watched a recent video of Luke in camp and I was slightly concerned at how big he looked so have to agree that making weight maybe a issue. I am hoping Luke can get a victory and there is no spurious judging.
     
    Wizbit1013, Twentyman and kojak like this.
  15. kojak

    kojak Well-Known Member Full Member

    Joined:
    Apr 22, 2012
    Messages:
    2,924
    Likes Received:
    2,967
    If you can get 11/4 on Campbell there great odds imo.

    Since he's moved to Shane he's improved a lot I feel.

    Agree with the weight thing but I don't think the weight cut kills him like other fighters, so I think he still performs at this level for now.

    Haven't seen much of Garcia, looks fast and has some good pop but I have some suspicion Campbell is going to jab him to death.

    Campbell didn't do himself a disservice against Lomachenko either.

    Looks a good value bet against an untested prospect (I've seen a lot better who have been hyped up).

    Hope I'm not wrong and he can do the business but Campbell is the value pick here.