Can Ryder upset Canelo ?

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by kdyehs, Apr 25, 2023.


Can an upset happen 6th may ?

  1. Ryder wins this

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  2. Likely

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  3. Unlikely

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  4. Not a chance

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  1. kdyehs

    kdyehs Active Member Full Member

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    What are the statistics of Ryder ? Punches he lands and punches that connect him per round? Is the guy competent both attack and defense ? And was he ever hurt or knocked down during his career ?
     
    kdyehs, Apr 26, 2023
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  2. Ricdog

    Ricdog Active Member Full Member

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    He can. Ryder the type of fighter that can give any elite champ a hard time depending if he brings his A game on.

    I kinda like this fight purely because if a change from the typical Canelo story of him having to chase another guy down, or GGG simply boxing on the outside. Ryder gonna have to go for the inside and it’s been a while since Canelo faced someone willing to go with him toe to toe.

    That being said, Canelo should win this on account of his speed, defense and combination punching. Not having to chase Ryder should theoretically give Canelo a great advantage. But we’ll see
     
    Ricdog, Apr 27, 2023
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  3. UniversalPart

    UniversalPart Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Damn, this fight is only next week.

    Where has the buildup and promo been for it? Are they just relying on the Mexican fanbase to pull this one through?
     
    UniversalPart, Apr 27, 2023
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  4. CST80

    CST80 De Omnibus Dubitandum Staff Member

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    If Ryder can glue himself to Canelo's chest, smother his work, not giving him the space or proper trajectory for him to land his looping combinations. Keep him pinned to the ropes, and work him non stop with his punishing inside work and repeated right hooks, his money punch. It's not out of the question that Ryder lands something meaningful that hurts Canelo badly. Can he follow up and stop him? Not likely, but he can certainly do enough to get everyone to cry robbery when he loses a wide decision in Mexico. While I think Ryder will have a great deal of success at times, I'm not sure he'll be consistent enough closing range and staying on the inside, and I'm also terrified he's going to walk right into a vicious left hook to the ribs that ends up stopping him. It's one of the few punches he has a hard time defending against.
     
    CST80, Apr 27, 2023
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  5. box33

    box33 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Indeed.
     
    box33, Apr 27, 2023
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  6. box33

    box33 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    And that's a very accurate assessment on all points.
     
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  7. box33

    box33 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    True man like almost every fight in boxing no wonder fighters try their best to negotiate a prepaid contract rather than individual fight by fight depending on ppv numbers,

    It's like there not even trying anymore, a shame for the fans.
     
    box33, Apr 27, 2023
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  8. box33

    box33 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Agree nicely said.
     
    box33, Apr 27, 2023
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  9. m.s.

    m.s. Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Smith destroyed Fielding and should have lost to Ryder, plus Ryder rallies late.
     
    m.s., Apr 27, 2023
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  10. ElCyclon

    ElCyclon Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    His chances of an upset are slim but I'm counting on Ryder to make this fight be the most aesthetically pleasing Canelo fight of the last couple of years.
     
    ElCyclon, Apr 27, 2023
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  11. drenlou

    drenlou VIP Member

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    Nope. His style is tailor made for Canelo. Canelo TKO8
     
    drenlou, Apr 27, 2023
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  12. C.J.

    C.J. Boxings Living Legend revered & respected by all Full Member

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    Why ? Is he taking his Vegas judges & ref with him. The great Mexican fight fans still haven't forgiven him for cowardly ducking GGG & meekly handing back the bogus WBC strap
     
    C.J., Apr 27, 2023
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  13. African Cobra

    African Cobra The Right Honourable Lord President of the Council banned Full Member

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    I stand by what I say he won’t lose in Guadalajara, Mexico. You doubt he will ?
     
    African Cobra, Apr 27, 2023
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  14. drenlou

    drenlou VIP Member

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    Ryder is getting stopped. No one will convince me otherwise.
     
    drenlou, Apr 27, 2023
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  15. African Cobra

    African Cobra The Right Honourable Lord President of the Council banned Full Member

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    I know anything can happen in boxing but I just can’t imagine Canelo losing to Ryder who is a good boxer in Canelo’s hometown.
     
    African Cobra, Apr 28, 2023
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