Canelo Bivol rounds 1-4 - "close fight" comprehensively debunked debunked

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  1. Ducklerr

    Ducklerr Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Shadow has officially lost it :(
     
  2. shadow111

    shadow111 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    How so? What do you see here?

    https://i.imgur.com/iTQCBKl.mp4

    That's 2 jabs, a right hook then a follow-up jab in combination. But you describe it for me.
     
  3. Ducklerr

    Ducklerr Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I see Canelo having a jab blocked, missing a right hand and then possible landing a jab or possibly having another jab blocked. Not sure what this proves haha
     
  4. Ducklerr

    Ducklerr Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    If this is the grounds you build your case on then Christ be with you :roflmao:
     
  5. shadow111

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    It proves that it's a combo. The first jab from the broadcast angle is inconclusive, it may have been blocked somewhat but it clearly backed Bivol up towards the ropes. The 2nd jab was short.

    We can see from this angle, that the right hand connected :

    https://i.imgur.com/A2nUA85.mp4

    We can see from this angle that the last jab clearly landed, as it snapped Bivol's head back :

    https://i.imgur.com/iTQCBKl.mp4

    Yet you say he missed the right hand and got the last jab blocked. Hmmmm :eyebrow2:
     
  6. shadow111

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    My case is that Canelo gets credit for this combo, to which I was called "delusional". The overhead camera is a game changer because Q can't play dumb due to bad camera angles anymore. At the very least, without the overhead camera when he did his punch summary, he should have mentioned that last jab which clearly landed from the DAZN angle.
     
  7. Ducklerr

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    The first is clearly short/blocked, the right hits him on the shoulder, not a scoring blow, the third does not “snap his head back” if anything it may just barely push through and make grazing contact. You are suffering from severe delusion. Nobody is seeing what you’re seeing.
     
  8. Ducklerr

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    You don’t get credit for a combination for maybe, possibly landing one shot. You are, in fact, delusional. Every single other person on this forum sees it. Go kick rocks you strange man
     
  9. Ducklerr

    Ducklerr Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Your boy got taken to school. GET OVER IT
     
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  10. shadow111

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    It's a jab, right hook, jab combo. The punches were thrown in combination. The first 2 jabs don't necessarily have to land for it to be a combination lmao. The first 2 jabs were thrown to set up the right hook, which clearly connects to the side of the head. It moved Bivol to the right, right into that last jab. On the right hook, part of the glove looks to have scraped the shoulder since it was looped around the guard as it connected with side of the head. Then the follow-up jab clearly landed. That's an effective combination. I don't know what you think you're arguing by trying to deny that this is a combo or that punches didn't land lol.
     
  11. Ducklerr

    Ducklerr Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    The right hand very clearly didn’t land. God this is sad. It is tragic watching someone scramble to give credit where it isn’t due. The man got taken to class.
     
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  12. shadow111

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    We're discussing what happened in Round 1. This combo by Canelo was clearly ignored by Q, I'm bringing it to his attention.
     
  13. Ducklerr

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    It was ignored for good reason. Nothing of note landed. It should be ignored.
     
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  14. Ducklerr

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    You’ve shown me multiple angles now. None of them show a meaningful or clear scoring blow
     
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  15. shadow111

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    It landed, but even if you want to argue it hit the shoulder and not the side of the head, that wouldn't stop it from being a combo. The punches were thrown in combination, therefore it's a combination. We can debate how many landed but that's nitpicking on your part. The first jab may have been blocked, but the last jab after the hook clearly landed, that's not up for debate. We're gonna need some more eyes to determine where the right hook landed, but it certainly was a scoring blow. Bivol started moving to his right as the punch was connecting, but he didn't avoid it. You look at the trajectory of that right hook it was curling around the guard towards the head, and it moved Bivol to the right right into that last jab.