Canelo Bivol rounds 1-4 - "close fight" comprehensively debunked debunked

Didn’t shadow score it for Bivol? I don’t get why you guys are this upset he gave the close rounds to Bivol.

 

** Don't forget all of those AMAZING Canelo highlights
There's a damning 20 seconds worth (slowed down and looped, just to make sure Shadow could keep up)

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He literally said there is an argument that it should have been a draw, or Canelo could have won.
How'd you take it when he said Canelo should have beaten Mayweather with the 114-114 card?

 

Ok there’s no argument for Canelo winning against Bivol. Did @shadow111 actually say that?

 

Yes.

Other quotable wonders from our special friend:

"Canelo landed the more telling shots"
"Compubox didn't count all of the big shots that Canelo landed"
"Canelo wobbled Bivol on the ropes"

Why do you think these exist?

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Our resident kompu_boxer seems to be having a meltdown here. He's become totally obsessed. Of course I haven't claimed it was anything other than a clear Bivol win. The divide is over how many rounds Canelo won and how close rounds 1-4 were, with Q arguing that Canelo has no argument for winning rounds 1-3. So I'm trying to go through Round 1 and point out problems with Q's timestamps to which he's proceeded to lose his marbles and go into spin mode.

 

@kiwi_boxer hmm seems like he scored it clearly for Bivol.

 

I think we can safely say that's a definite certainty.

 

@ellerbe I posted some clips, and Q is losing his marbles over them.

Can you assist us here and describe what is occurring in these clips?

First clip :

https://imgur.com/bOWdsW6



Second clip :

https://imgur.com/iTQCBKl

Second clip from Overhead Angle :

https://imgur.com/A2nUA85

 

We need to break the tie, so lets get a second opinion. Why are you scared of getting a second opinion? Yes you did mention a jab, a "clean" jab even. YET your buddy @Ducklerr claimed it wasn't a scoring blow or might have been blocked lmao.

I pointed out to you that that CLEAN jab was part of a COMBO, which you continue to dispute, that he landed a right hook that moved Bivol into that jab. Which admittedly was hard to see on the DAZN angle which is why I referred you to the overheda camera. The CLEAN jab landed as well as it did DUE to the COMBINATION PUNCHES which preceeded it. The first 2 jabs BACKED Bivol into the ropes, then the right hook moved him right INTO the jab which landed flush.

You ignored the combo as well as many other shots that I added to your timestamps that you missed. You refuse to acklowedge what you ignored and you continue to argue with me rather than address my corrections to your timestamps which is what you asked me to do. I pointed out that your love tap at 0:46 was blocked, brushed aside and was nothing more than a tap attempt, after you claimed that you don't score taps. I completely exposed you as a manipulator and a BS artist when it comes to scoring rounds. You laughably claimed that there's "zero" argument that Canelo won round 1. You also claimed that :

0:00 possible uppercut lands for Canelo, does not look like it has any real impact

"Possible" uppercut that doesn't look like it has any real impact lol, while the overhead camera shows Bivol's head snapping up you clown. I can expose your nonsense all day.

 

Here are some other examples of you exaggerating Bivol's shots and counting shots that were blocked as landed :

You said :

0:13 heavy jab from Bivol, possibly a right hand (again camera angles), then jab

I pointed out that your "heavy jab from Bivol" hit mostly glove, was light and ineffective. Your "possibly a right hand (again camera angles)" was blocked, however it had power on it though, so it pushed the glove aside and may have slightly connected to face after hitting glove. But typically I do not count shots that hit gloves first unless they still land flush with power which this didn't.

With shots like this we really need to discuss if we should count these, both fighters in this round landed a number of shots like this, that hit the glove but still had enough oomph on it to push the glove aside after being "blocked" and still land somewhat.

The other jab in this sequence was fully blocked. You can see this one clearly from the overhead camera. If you deny it, I'm happy to make another clip to continue to expose you further. You''re in trouble this time Q because we have the overhead camera.

 

Also you stated :

"0:55 possible bodyshot from Bivol." We can see from the overhead camera that this was blocked by Canelo's elbow and the shot richocheted downward to Canelo's beltline.

Then your "possible hybrid jab/left hook" by Bivol. This follow up left hook by Bivol was in fact blocked.

So you listed 2 punches here from Bivol that you weren't sure about. I checked these on the overhead angle and let you know that these didn't land. You're welcome.

As for this jab, another one that you were unsure of :

"0:37 Bivols jab arguably lands, again difficult to see camera angle" The overheard camera confirms that this was a solid jab from Bivol, it landed lands clean at 7:19 in video. This was one of Bivol's best shots of the round.

I was hoping to get you to double check all my corrections and additions on the overhead camera so you can verify this with me, but instead you would rather argue with me and refuse to address the issues with your timestamps.