Canelo Bivol rounds 1-4 - "close fight" comprehensively debunked debunked

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  1. Quina74

    Quina74 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I've just debunked this all in my post. I've accounted for every punch checked via slow mo and normal speed. There's absolute zero case for round 1 and poor case for rounds 2 and 3 going to Canelo
     
  2. lobk

    lobk Original ESB Member Full Member

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    I think he is being sarcastic? Saying the fight could have been stopped in rnd 9 for Canelo.
     
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  3. cleglue1

    cleglue1 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    If those other guys are shadow's alts, then shadow is the most reasonable one. He makes good points from time to time.
     
  4. cuchulain

    cuchulain Loyal Member Full Member

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    Read my post, I broke it all down for you, round by round....if you give Bivol the last round, it could be 7 - 5 Canelo.

    Read Shadow's posts...he's been pretty objective on this matter.
     
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  5. ellerbe

    ellerbe Loyal Member Full Member

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    The issue though in this fight is that Canelo didn't land eye catching punches. I agree with you though, I remember we argued about GGG 1 and Mayweather fight. You def were way off base on the Mayweather fight as that fight was not remotely close, but your argument for the GGG 1 fight was decent and the eye catching punches he landed snapped GGG's head back and had a lot of thudding power on them. Against Bivol, I can remember like 2-3 clean uppercuts but they didn't have the same oomph as the shots he was landing on GGG. Curious to see your scorecard. Also @Quina74 can't accuse you of being biased because he's just as biased as you are against Canelo lol. Any post this guy makes about Canelo I know it's going to be negative.
     
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  6. lordlosh

    lordlosh Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

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    I can't know, cause he is on my ignore list for quite some time, and i don't see his posts.
    But this guy and the 2 other Clenelo fans with all of their alts are absolutely delusional. Zero sense to have discussion with any of them.
     
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  7. Quina74

    Quina74 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Lmao you don't know what you're talking about. Or you are trolling me. I credited every punch in rounds 1-3 with timestamps . If you can point out some imaginary punches Canelo lands in these rounds that are contrary to what Ive put go ahead. Canelo has almost poor argument for any of them. Just saying "Canelo won this and this round" means nothing. You haven't broken anything down to any level. I've broken it down punch by punch. Bivol lands significantly more more meaningful shots in all rounds 1 to 3. Canelo lands a good uppercut in round 3 but he got significantly outlanded in overall cleaner work.
     
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  8. Quina74

    Quina74 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Dude, are you serious? I'm not biased against anybody. And I score rounds as accurately as possible, if you want to point out missed punches in round 1-3 go ahead. I haven't I credited everyone's work. Don't be a d ick

    Canelo deserves a trashing anyway. Its not like he hasn't been gifted several wins and stacking the deck for some time. Come on. It's natural to dislike this guys antics. I actually like Canelo personality though, he actually is pretty funny and seems like a cool dude.. even if he did kill a sparring partner and beat the **** out of a smaller stable mate.
     
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  9. Jackman65

    Jackman65 FJB Full Member

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    Great breakdown of the first few rounds. Don’t waste your time trying to convince the Canelo cucks. They are beyond redemption and unable to view the fight with an objective eye. They have a man crush on ginger and watch the fights with the intention of finding rounds for Canelo even if the actual fight doesn’t support their conclusions. Just accept it and move on. Great work, I agree with your analysis.
     
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  10. Quina74

    Quina74 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Thanks dude.. The thing is I go round by round and list reasons why Bivol won them. And the fanboys go "no Canelo won rounds 1-4" like its supposed to be an argument. Oh well. Can't convince everyone it seems
     
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  11. cuchulain

    cuchulain Loyal Member Full Member

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    FFS man, lighten up.

    You were in the same thread as I was on Saturday night...did you not see how I scored it ?

    https://www.boxingforum24.com/threa...t-alexander-rbr.686002/page-112#post-21696078

    How everybody (but a few delusional Canelo fans) scored it ?

    I'm a fan of Canelo...I had him at #2 p4p (behind Usyk) before Saturday night. I still have him there.

    He's held belts in three divisions and comprehensively cleaned out the SMW division.

    175 was a bridge too far... I predicted he would lose...
    https://www.boxingforum24.com/threads/does-bivol-have-a-good-chin.686006/#post-21694416



    Now as to the fight itself, Bivol won 10 rounds, eight of them well beyond dispute and two that were reasonably clear.

    I gave Canelo two rounds (4 and 9, the two closest rounds of the event), but you could make a reasonable case that this was a shutout.

    Regarding the scoring...

    https://www.boxingforum24.com/threads/people-were-scared-to-bet-on-bivol.686098/#post-21698570

    Canelo is an ATG, but he got the ever-loving crap beat out of him last Saturday.
     
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  12. infini IV

    infini IV Dillian Whyte. KTFO like I said he would Full Member

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    I scored it live round by round 11.1 Bivol. Canela only won the 9th
     
  13. Mod-Mania

    Mod-Mania Boxing Addict Full Member

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    The 4th is the only one of those rounds which could've been given to Canelo, maybe the 2nd if you want to be ridiculously generous to him.
     
  14. Quina74

    Quina74 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I plan on watching round 4 and 9 again.. I remember thinking Rd 9 could go to Canelo.. But his punches were so laboured and Bivol did good work in this round
     
  15. lordlosh

    lordlosh Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

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    Just rewatching the fight, i'm on the 1st round, and you have to be completely blind to score that round for Canelo.
    Bivol jabbed the **** out of Clen face, and Clenelo was missing widly. Clen also throw 1 uppercut after the bell, which was also fully blocked by Bivol, yet the biased commentator try to spin it, an uppercut for Canelo on the bell, while firstly was after the bell and secondly it didn't land even at 1%, pathetic.
    Bivol also landed cleanly 4 or 5 punch combinations, and Clenbuterol face after the first round was HOT RED !
    Anyone, and i mean anyone, don't care if it's a user or judge score that round is clearly Clenelo diva.
    Will post my scorecards latter or tomorrow if i have time.

    Just watched the second round as well, another CLEAN round for Bivol.
    What in the blue hell was some people on here watching ? With their Clenelo *** on their face?
     
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