Canelo Bivol rounds 1-4 - "close fight" comprehensively debunked debunked

One punch at a time bud. It's a little bitty love tap that catches Canelo's glove. He easily brushed that little love tap aside with his glove. The punches I credited from Canelo LANDED, ellerbe and even exo confirmed. They were not big punches obviously, but they are clearly seen landing unlike this love tap of yours. And trust me exo wouldn't say something I said landed if it didn't. He is not on my side and he still agreed it landed.

 

Shadow never answers questions that are difficult or undermine his narrative.
You have to be persistant and not let him off as he will try his best to deflect. chaff and redirect.
It's what he does.

 

What questions haven't I answered? I'm not the one deflecting here.

 

Now camera angles are cherrypicks gone wrong?

 

Thank you. Not a scoring shot, should be counted as a block.

 

What and the GIF's you provided atr scoring shots?
I'm sounding like a broken record you are not applying consistent scoring. I wouldn't count any punches that brush arms or tap the head.
You've made this about semantics and not the bigger picture which was a complete schooling.
I'm thinking I might have to clown you again.

 

Goodness you're about to have a meltdown. Save yourself from further embarrassment and take your L.

 

In regard to the dueling jabs one, you confirmed Canelo's jab landed when I provided you with the slow motion clip, but you said it only slighty landed which I agreed with. I agreed it wasn't a hard flush shot, but it did land clean, and you confirmed that it landed, that it wasn't a miss. But you said you do not consider it a scoring shot.

Apparently whether or not a punch lands or not is a different thing than whether or not you score it. If you do not consider it hard enough, you don't count it, and to the contrary we have shots that hit glove but still land a lot harder. My point there wasn't to rate how hard it landed, but rather to show that it was in fact a "hit". Q denied that it even landed and basically mocked me for thinking it landed. So if you don't want to score that one because you didn't think it landed hard enough, that's your judgement. My only point was that it was clearly a "hit" which you and ellerbe confirmed. Q denied that it ever landed.

 

It's borderline for me but I didn't count the two previous GIF's that Shadow provided. As one scuffed off the forearm and the other barely touched the forehead. This punch does move Canelo''s head but is also parried by Canelo so this is slightly better but half the time I would count it and the other half I wouldn't.
I don't know why this has been taken down the road of these none and borderline punches when we should be looking at the clean and effective punching. I know why really. it's Shadow wanting to reframe. so that once these none punches are counted he can move forward and then count punches hitting the high guard clipping the arms. Personally I just don't count a lot of these shots unless there's a clear impact and affect.

 

Yes but you are over emphasising those shots that barely make contact.
Yes it comes down to degrees but I'm consistent with how I score thes shots because if they come from Bivol I'm still not scoring them.
So I think you are trying to make this obtuse by concentrating on a small element that you think you can win when you've already lost the war. As I've said to Ellerbe that this dhould be about the clean effective punching and not dragging into what quite frankly is irellevant none scoring or borderline punches.

 

Brother like I said, from your angle I could see your point, but really it’s hard to see. Maybe I’m blind.

That’s exactly how I feel in regards to scoring the punch.