Canelo Bivol rounds 1-4 - "close fight" comprehensively debunked debunked

No because they are different that's a false equivelence again Shadow.
You said yourself that every punch is different and now you want to negotiate?
That's not how it works my friend. those two you provided are clearly not scoring punches. You wwould count the forehead tap if you watching an Am. fight but we're not...

 

Again you're getting confused by which punches I'm referring to. I'm not talking about the follow-up right hook to the shoulder which cuffed Bivol's forearm. I'm referring to the two jabs, the first jab at 1:00 that landed with more force and sent Bivol back before the right hand, and THEN the next jab which we previously agreed landed but only slightly 3 seconds later.

If you didn't score either of those, those both landed better (the first one harder, the 2nd one cleaner) than Bivol's love tap that was mostly if not entirely blocked and had less on it than the aforementioned Canelo jabs. We need to be consistent.

 

lol at jolted Canelo's head back.

Q is claiming that this jab "JOLTED" Canelo's head back.

https://i.imgur.com/bOWdsW6.mp4

Did this jolt Canelo's head back @ellerbe @exocet76 @DoubleJab666 ?

 

I said it's borderline and I would need to see it from another angle to feel confident before giving it. I think I'm being pretty clear in my language. The punch hits with Canelo parrying it after contact and it's a better case than the two joke ones you posted.
Also as I've already said this is not a negotauation we are judging each shot individually so if Q's shot scores that doesn't mean you get your two as they are all different shot's.
Stop being a weasel Shadow you have the potential to be better.

 

That's a scoring shot from that angle. let's now move on.

 

I'm not interested in looking at clips of disputed punches - including the one I referenced above - and trying to determine a three dimensional outcome with two dimensional data. It's utter nonsense. My previous comment was merely highlighting the inadequacy looking at a gif and saying 'Look! It landed/didn't land!' as if that proves anything of substance at all. Two or three punches in a fight featuring hundreds are relatively meaningless.

Bivol won and, in my opinion, his win was wider than how the judges scored it - a view held by the majority of people on this forum as far as I can see. You think otherwise. Why can't you move on?

We could always talk about your new belle... Mell.

 

It's hard to tell on that clip due to the angle. however Shadow very helpfully provided an elevated camera shot that clearly shows it as a scoring jab.

 

Now you want to move on lol. Answer the question. From that angle, did that jolt Canelo's head back? Q said it did lol. It's the same punch whether you look at it from one angle or the other. The angle doesn't change what happened. The angle doesn't make Canelo's head jolt back from behind but not from the side.

 

It's irrelevant. again you try semantics it won't work with me Shafow because I've always had your number.
Is it a scoring shot?
Yes
Let's move on.
FYI. it does snap his head back and I don't have an issue with jolt as it's better case than the nonsensee you were spouting on the two GIF's you provided. You are the last person to point the finger over hyperbole.