Canelo Bivol rounds 1-4 - "close fight" comprehensively debunked debunked

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  1. exocet76

    exocet76 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    It doesn't change anything other than showing Canelo getting hit more clearly. It doesn't change the number of punches being thrown or landed.
    Oh and is it a "Game changer"like Super Duper Zoom camera's you silly twat.?
     
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  2. shadow111

    shadow111 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Coming from you that doesn't mean a whole lot. No matter how bad I put it on you, you'll always try and spin it in your favor.
     
  3. shadow111

    shadow111 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    It's been a game changer in round 1, that camera angle has shown us punches that we were unable to see from the broadcast cameras.
     
  4. Quina74

    Quina74 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    "Clean" punches by Canelo in round 1 lands
    One right hand as Bivols retreating.
    One desperate poking like jab after being outmanouvered followin from a missed jab and a right hand that misses (which shadow credits)
    And an uppercut.

    If you have any more clean SCORING punches from Canelo then please let me know. You're literally just saying words at this point. Bivol landed a lot more clean shots than Canelo in round 1. Canelo desperately hitting Bivols arms and shoulders (some of which were with Canelo's inside glove slaps and pulled punches) does negate Bivols work. Again, go back to page 1 and start from the discussion there because you are chiming in on discussion points that have already been debunked.
     
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  5. exocet76

    exocet76 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Yes they are Shadow is clearly claiming arm and shoulder punches to be scoring.
    Can you read?
    Go through the last 10 pages that's exactly what Shadow is saying.
    Yes but as you stated that Canelo won the first 4 rounds I rewatched using that elevated angle and Bivol CLEARLY outlands Ginger by some margin so I can't take you seriously as you are attributing things that you shouldn't to Canelo whilst ignoring the work that Bivol did.
    The fact is you and Shadow are beyond outliers in this. this is like debating a flat earther.
     
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  6. exocet76

    exocet76 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    It's not a game changer as it doesn't negate the punch output deficit that Canelo clearly has.
    You're completely deluded and moronic.
    Tou still haven't answered myy question.
    Are you now conceeding that arm punches are no scoring as per the rules?
     
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  7. Wizbit1013

    Wizbit1013 Drama go, and don't come back Full Member

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    Arm punches are scoring punches now


    :risas3:
     
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  8. shadow111

    shadow111 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    You said yourself they can count in terms of effective aggression. So one way or another, shots like that count towards the scoring. That bicep bomb at the end of round 1 certainly helped Canelo win the round on all 3 judges cards.
     
  9. shadow111

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    Only in your biased Canelo hating mind. All 3 judges were in agreement that Canelo won that round.
     
  10. Quina74

    Quina74 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    My god. You've really embarassed yourself here
     
  11. shadow111

    shadow111 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    How so?
     
  12. Ducklerr

    Ducklerr Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Ya, and we all know boxing judges have no shady history of finding rounds to score for Canelo.
     
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  13. shadow111

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    Maybe you should ask Callum Smith how effective Canelo's bicep bombs were :
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    Try telling Smith those didn't score.
     
  14. Wizbit1013

    Wizbit1013 Drama go, and don't come back Full Member

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    Smith wasn't judging

    In fact Smith wasn't doing much at all
     
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  15. divac

    divac Loyal Member Full Member

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    From my perspective, though those particular punches dont land in the typical scoring areas of the face or body, they can be used as a bases to value the work of a particular fighter. Canelo in those early rounds is aggressive while Bivol is shelling up and mostly not even attempting to counter Canelo's aggression.
    Whether the shots land in the typical scoring sections or not, you can place some value in them particularly when any significant clean scoring in the face or body area is absent.

    Canelo in the early going is fighting aggressively and throwing hard shots, Bivol is shelling up. From this perspective where there is little clean connects in a round, round to the aggressor.
     
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