Canelo Bivol rounds 1-4 - "close fight" comprehensively debunked debunked

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  1. Wizbit1013

    Wizbit1013 Drama go, and don't come back Full Member

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    Nope, he uses camera angles, slo mo, lies, makes up rules, creates names for new punches


    You know exactly how a judge should score a round live...
     
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  2. shadow111

    shadow111 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Focusing on one round at a time is strange? The focus is clearly on how the early rounds namely 1-4 are scored. It's a waste of time to score rounds 5-12 when everyone is pretty much in agreement on how those rounds were scored. What people disagree on is rounds 1-4 so that's where the focus needs to be. Starting with Round 1.
     
  3. lufcrazy

    lufcrazy requiescat in pace Full Member

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    What's strange is that you haven't scored the fight in full yet, you gave the first round to Canelo, others gave it to Bivol. Why debate it for 70 pages lol.
     
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  4. shadow111

    shadow111 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Well it turns out that those who scored Round 1 for Bivol didn't even know that punches to the shoulder area were scoring shots lol. What about you luf, did you know shoulder shots were scoring shots?
     
  5. lufcrazy

    lufcrazy requiescat in pace Full Member

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    Who cares, why spend 70 pages debating the scoring of 1 round in clear decision?
     
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  6. BCS8

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    What you quoted was clear enough. However you chose to grab hold of the rope and head off into the bushes with it. Ain't nobody that knows where your insane rabbit hole ends up.
     
  7. shadow111

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    Who cares? LOL why don't you ask the Topic creator. I didn't create this topic. These clowns that scored round 1 to Bivol did so while not knowing what the scoring areas were. It's a lot easier to give Bivol that round if you don't think shoulder shots score. They've been scoring rounds incorrectly all this time, until I set them straight. Now they know how to score, now they know that shoulder shots count.
     
  8. shadow111

    shadow111 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Clear enough, you mean that you don't think shots to the side of the head or side of the body can be scored.

    Speaking of rabbit holes, you've been down one hell of a rabbit hole not knowng what the scoring areas were, you've been scoring rounds incorrectly all this time, thinking that shoulder shots didn't count. What would you do without me? Now you know how to score shoulder shots, which can be the difference between who wins and loses a round. You're welcome.
     
  9. shadow111

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    But wait a minute, that diagram doesn't count the shoulders, or the chest for that matter as scoring zones. We know the chest is a scoring area. Also in your diagram it shows the side profile with the side of the head as part of the scoring zone, including and behind the ear, which you just claimed was excluded. As well as the side of the body, rib area which is also part of the scoring area.

    Your diagram may refer to the scoring areas in amateur boxing as the fighters are shown with headgear on. We're discussing the scoring areas of pro boxing which is quite different than the scoring zones in your diagram.
     
  10. exocet76

    exocet76 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Some nuggets....

    I keep hearing you and others claiming that a punch to the shoulder bicep or arm is not a scoring shot. Where in the boxing scoring criteria does it state that punches to this area cannot be considered scoring shots? Please provide evidence to support your claim that these cannot be considered scoring shots.[/QUOTE]

    PLEASE READ THE ABOVE FOR MORE CONTEXT.
    Just read a few of the nuggets above. I've collated and clear quotes about wanting to claim arm punches.....
    Despite Shadow lying and claiming otherwise.
    You will also not the constant appeals to authority fallacy with elletbe. which I counted being used over 40 times in 72 pages.
    I was counting all fallacies but gave up after hitting 250 by page 44.
    Reviewing the thread 98+% is Shadow getting ragdolled from the start.
    Also I've posted exerts that show the shifting goalposts from it being a 7-5 score to Canelo won the first 4 rounds to Canelo won the 1st round.

    Like I said shadow respect is something you earn and your tactics and constant lying and twisting and manipulating reality means that you are due none.
     
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  11. shadow111

    shadow111 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Where in any of those quotes did I count an arm punch as scoring? I asked several times where in the rules did it prohibit the scoring of arm or shoulder shots? That was a question, not a claim.

    In this one:

    I clearly point out that there's a difference between an arm punch, a bicep punch, or a shoulder punch, and then I specifically pointed out that "the right hook really landed to the shoulder muscle". So you're showing me making it clear that I'm refering to shoulder shots specifically, rather than arm punches which you were talking about.
     
  12. Ducklerr

    Ducklerr Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Where can I find this? Looking forward to it
     
  13. shadow111

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    Wiz was very entertained by my comments about VAR in football and how England were given a gift with that penalty to get to the Final in the Euros.
     
  14. exocet76

    exocet76 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Learn to read weasel.
    I said "I've collated and clear quotes about wanting to claim arm punches....."
    That's different to "Where in any of those quotes did I count an arm punch as scoring? "
    Do you see the difference between the two?
    Or are you just that used to lying and manipulating that you can''t tell the difference.?