Canelo handicapping Bivol at catchweight

ffs

 

This is what I mean by the meaningless rhetoric.

This isn't a fan vs hater argument.

I want Canelo to fight at LHW because I think that's where we see the most competitive match up. I would then like to see the winner vs Beterbiev.

If a fighter brings someone down in weight, they'll always be accused of draining. The same way Floyd is accused of draining Canelo.

Whatever weight class a fighter makes weight, is fine by me. If Canelo can fight at 160 or 168 or 175,thats on him.

I'm not interested in fan vs hater arguments.

I'm interested in seeing the best fight the best.

Bivol is one of the best at LHW. Canelo has already beaten one of the best at LHW.

 

nobody is talking about you, stop taking everything said so personal. look man, youve explained your point of view, ive explained mine, and im tired of having to explain it multiple times to be understood, lets just leave it at that and move on.

 

You replied to me lol.

I'll happily leave it be, but the whole point of replying to a post is to illicit a response, otherwise why reply in the first place.

But yes, you're happy with the fight not being at 175 because Canelo isn't as good at 175. I want the fight at 175 because I see the fight being the most competitive at that weight.

The reality of the situation is you replied to my post, if you aren't interested in debating it then why reply at all?

 

this is the very first post between yourself and i. can you see who made it?

now i dont understand how your reasoning works, but it obviously doesnt jell with mine, and we share different realities, or different levels of reasoning. either way, it seems to lead to nothing but confusion on your part, cause as you can see, im not confused about where this whole thing started.

 

Yes I quoted your post and you replied to me, again why reply to me if you don't want to illicit a response?

My confusion begun when I said he moved up to 175 to face Kovalev, and your reply didn't really make sense with what I posted.

In terms of reality, I immediately told you I didn't understand your post, and you spent the next few posts not really explaining it.

You eventually said you think it should be below 175 because that's where Canelo is at his best. But do you think it's a more competitive fight below 175?

Because if you do, then feel free to harbour that opinion, if, however, you believe the fight is most competitive at 175 pounds then you don't disagree with me at all, as that's the point I've been trying to make over and over.

 

I hope this fight happens bivol is the real deal and can box his ass off. Canelo will have his hands full with Bivol.

 

now its becoming hilarious to me, so lets follow this to its natural conclusion, as each post becomes more and more revealing of what each of us is working with, and the contrast in logic is cracking me up.

i said lets move on, to which you replied "you quoted me". if you werent implying that i started it, why did you reply with that?

and i clarified twice already, a 3rd would be a waste of time.

explained it twice. like i also said, if i didnt explain it to where YOU can understand it, its on me, and that it wasnt that important to me. and it aint, thats why i dont want to waste time on a third. the posts are there, easy for anyone to take a stab at it themselves if its of any interest to them.

i never said anything like that. but please quote the post that led you to believe that. like i said, seeing how you got to where youre at, is amusing.

again, pull up that post that got you thinking that and i will address it as clearly as i know how.

 

Excuses will be made regardless if canelo beats him at 175 as well. Haters will say well he didn't have a full camp and took the fight on short notice so it doesn't count and it wasn't a legit win or say bivol waa never that good anyway he needs to fight Beterbiev. Canelo will never win with some people regardless of what he does. So he might as well fight him on his terms because haters won't give him credit anyway.

 

This one.

As for the rest of your post, I said you quoted me, and you did, hence why I thought you'd have been more keen for me to understand what your reply meant.

The natural conclusion is my starting point, imo, the fight would be more competitive at 175, Canelo has fought there before, if he doesn't do this time then it means he's not as confident of victory.

 

No, he might as well fight him on his terms because he's the one risking his life for a paycheck.

However, as fans of boxing, we don't care about that kind of thing. We care about the best fighting the best.

 

yes, that post clearly states that what canelo is doing, based on what the team said, makes sense to me. nowhere do i state what my feelings are on the subject, just the logic of it. but maybe this post i made a week ago can clear up your confusion.

does that clear it up for you?

 

See look how easy that was man.

 

now you know who i am, and shouldnt confuse me again. right?

 

I prefer to skip all the in between bits and just go from this post

"The problem is he went to full 175 for Kovalev.

So if he doesn't do that here, it indicates a reluctance to face Bivol at 175 pounds."

To this post

"if it aint at 175, its a clown move, dont mean anything. if it is, its epic."

Nothing else is necessary imo. Have a good day.