Canelo handicapping Bivol at catchweight

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  1. lufcrazy

    lufcrazy requiescat in pace

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    Rehydration clauses level the playing field. No problem with them whatsoever. I wish every single fight had them tbh
     
  2. bandeedo

    bandeedo Loyal Member Full Member

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    and they would have a point. thats why i say, you take the win for what it is. its not nothing, but its not to be compared with what others have done in that situation.
    maybe canelos team wants to better acclimate canelo to 175, before establishing himself as the undisputed best at 175. if they fought at a cw, and canelo won, i wouldnt make him a better 175 fighter than bivol at that point. but if they then rematched at the full 175, and he won again, then its legit and only beterbiev is left to contest the claim.
    you have to remember, canelo wants to fight a good 4 more years at least, and hes running out of challenges already. and he fights at least 3 times a year. so he has plenty of time and ways to squeeze the most juice out of whats left of this orange. thats why i see ward coming out of retirement at some point, if for nothing else, for the money. and because there is nobody left to test canelo.
     
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    C.J. Boxings Living Legend revered & respected by all Full Member

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    You folks that are siding with Canelo must have short memories. He fought Cotto at 155 won & claimed he was The WBC middleweight champion BUT When he was told to defend that title at the correct 160 limit against GGG the coward meekly handed back his bogus belt. Once a cowardly cheater always a cowardly cheater. A leopard cannot change his spots lol It wasnt till Vegas boxing assured him they'd never let him lose there, that he did rob GGG of a win with that "draw" debacle. Then the icing on the cake when he robbed GGG of his titles with another "Vegas dec win" he in no way deserved
    Yet some supposed boxing fans STILL idolize him. Not so many now though
     
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    The problem is he went to full 175 for Kovalev.

    So if he doesn't do that here, it indicates a reluctance to face Bivol at 175 pounds.
     
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    Bustajay Feel the Steel/Balls Deep Full Member

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    But
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    Krusher was the best of the best @ 175:dunno
     
  6. elmaldito

    elmaldito Skillz Full Member

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    Anybody can get down 5 more lbs through proper diet and fasting.....with no water cut. Not allowing proper rehydration shouldnt be allowed
     
  7. Toney F*** U

    Toney F*** U Boxing junkie Full Member

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    We all know how Canelo is, but there really isn’t an issue here so no big deal
     
  8. lufcrazy

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    Nah, if a fighter needs to rehydrate that much they shouldn't be in that weight class to begin with.

    IBF have 10% make that a blanket rule imo.
     
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    The issue is if Bivol is gonna put his belt on the line he should be allowed to weight upto the divisional limit.
     
  10. bandeedo

    bandeedo Loyal Member Full Member

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    yes, and he jumped up 2 weight divisions to do it. whether you think kovalev was washed up or not, had enough time to prepare or not, it wasnt nothing. people are now saying beterbiev is old, would you give ggg any credit if he went up to 175 and ko'ed him? lets have some consistency.
     
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    African Cobra The Right Honourable Lord President of the Council banned Full Member

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    Difficult to turn down the $10 Million though.
     
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    Toney F*** U Boxing junkie Full Member

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    Isn’t it common for belts to be on the line at catch weights?
     
  13. shadow111

    shadow111 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I think this is one of the most important points to come out of this, that people are not factoring in how difficult that was for Canelo to move up to 175 and fight Kovalev. That would be like Mayweather fighting at Middleweight something he never did. Many people literally laughed at the idea that Canelo would move up to fight Kovalev until it was announced. We need to really look at this Canelo Bivol situations objectively and not feed into the usual hysteria that comes with Canelo and weight debates. I'm looking for consistency that's it. And when it comes to Canelo vs Bivol I think it makes sense to happen at 168 for a lot of reasons, but if Bivol needs time to get down to 168 I think he should have the time to do that so we can see if he can make that happen.

    But in the meantime Canelo should be focused on 168-lbs, not Light Heavyweight. Canelo went up and KO'd Kovalev in a special match, but now he is unified at 168-lbs and that's where he should be fighting. There are a lot of young hungry lions at SMW that want to challenge Canelo in his own weight class. He doesn't need to be chasing around Light Heavyweights.
     
  14. lufcrazy

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    What are you going on about?
     
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    I'd say it happens 100% of the time.