Canelo no longer enrolled in VADA's 365 testing program

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  1. Angler Andrew

    Angler Andrew Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    It was the opposite of this actually as the PEDs he was caught in his system are more known for losing weight and building up lean muscle mass like those Mexican bovines.
    He's always been a middleweight,the only difference imo is his age which makes making 154 impossible now.
    Whatever the truth Isal you know folk will always bring up PEDs now,bad enough before he got caught with something in his system but now his ban for drugs will only add fuel to the fire.
     
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  2. Angler Andrew

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    The Floyd thing was washed under the carpet as I can tell you that Thomas Hauser report was pretty damming 're Floyd's unusual testosterone levels that even the testing labs said were "unatural" given his age.
    Are you seeing a pattern here?which other A side boxer who brings in millions in revenue was given a light ban and not only that was excused by the powers that be,making up that ridiculous cover story about tainted meat which was totally at odds with the actual results which were anything but trace amounts.
     
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  3. Angler Andrew

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    Given his track record it's mystifying how he has a choice in any of this?
    Imo they should be in his freezer,testing all that meat.
     
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  4. Heavy_Hitter

    Heavy_Hitter Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Clenbuterol is often used as a masking agent. Canelo pulling out of VADA testing is a direct proof that he is roided up to the eye balls.
     
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  5. C.J.

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    Well Canelo is thick as two short planks or a few fries short of a happy meal
     
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  6. Angler Andrew

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    Yes it is and I remember the BBC article on Canelo testing positive and they went to town on him,mentioning how Clenbuterol is often used as a masking agent and listed a heap of other drugs it's often used with.
    Few days later they must of got the memo about him ingesting meat as Steve Bunce who works for the BBC was quick to get on board sticking up for Canelo lol.
     
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  7. Angler Andrew

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    Lol you said it,has to be said though,had they tested him as usual his cycle would of been complete.That's what was so damning,they tested him earlier from the suspicions that Tom Loeffler had and lo and behold he was proved right.
     
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  8. Angler Andrew

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    I don't really care about using to be honest as it's to be expected.What gets me is the denial as you rightly mentioned his party trick was to make weight at 154pounds and rehydrate overnight,this is why many suspected he was using as it was like some magic trick.I understand folk who say you shouldn't point the finger without evidence but that's rubbish as you can see it imo.Case in point was TJ Dillashaw,so obvious from his gyno and body that he was on a heap of stuff for years so when he tested positive it wasn't a surprise in the least.
    Golovkin weighed in on him,claiming he saw needle marks and wether true or not there are pics that show mosquito bites around his abdomen.
    Guess what I'm saying is that the magic trick was never real and the answer to how he did it was the standard PED thing.
     
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  9. shadow111

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    What actual results are you referring to? Are you saying Canelo didn't test for trace amounts of clen, but higher levels?
     
  10. shadow111

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    So many questions about what you said here. First of all what were Loeffler's suspicions, and how was Loeffler able to influence Canelo's testing schedule? If what you are saying is true, then that seems a little unethical, if Tom was able to somehow convince VADA to test him earlier, that sounds like a conflict of interest.
     
  11. Angler Andrew

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    it's all relative,needless to say there are athletes that have been found with less such as the cyclists.
    Would be interesting to know how much steak that's tainted would be needed to show up in ones system.

    Tyson Fury long before Canelo tried pushing the tainted meat thing and if not that it's tainted supplements.
    It's an inbuilt cover story imo and has very little credence.
     
  12. Angler Andrew

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    Yes it is a funny one as they should act independently but I'm quite sure that's what happened.
    I think after the first fight when Canelo had is usual schedule(fights like clockwork on Cinco de Maya)either Glovkin or Loeffler raised some concerns about Canelos habits,given that both teams have some say 're testing I can only think they suggested testing them both earlier than before?
     
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  13. Stefz

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    If you think his weight cuts while keeping that much muscle mass is natural, then lift a weight for once in your life.
    Hes bulky yes, but his physique size wise has changed dramatically in muscle mass. I guess Canelo must A* genetics for body building.
     
  14. elbonzoseco

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    Don't fall for that :D It was part of the contract that both guys get tested 11 weeks prior to the fight instead of the usual 8 weeks. That's all that happened, Loeffler didn't convince anyone. Also I like his logic, if Loeffler somehow knew Canelo was on the gear right now and tipped VADA off, that is wrong and VADA should not test him. But instead Loeffler is in the wrong. His sole raison d'ĂȘtre is to defend Canelo, the messiah can do no wrong.
     
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  15. iii

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    Ooh pleeth don't intimidate me ...mowt all mighty..slut
     
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