Canelo v Crawford

Not at all.
This is Crawford's first attempt at actually taking a risk. This is a very exciting fight.

 

Bud is taller than Canelo with more reach. He is smaller though just like Charlo was and Canelo couldn't even beat him him up let alone Blitz him. Why do you think Crawford is so eager to fight him?

 

Canelo is on the decline

 

I really don't wanna get my hopes high. But It's very unlikely for Canelo to fight the Beterbiev/Bivol winner at 175, as even if he wanted to I expect them to have a trilogy. And he clearly doesn't want Benavidez, so who else would help Canelo get a big payday by his standards?

Noone at 160 or 168, that's for sure.

Canelo looked like a monster during his undisputed run at 168. But a mediocre fighter like Caleb Plant was able to give him some problems boxing from the range, took Canelo 11 relatively competitive rounds to get rid of him.

Took him 8 rounds to find the target against Saunders who was very much in the fight until he got caught with the uppercut. Saunders is a slick southpaw, but he's an inferior athlete to Crawford and doesn't have 1/10 of his dedication or focus on top of a shorter reach.

And after his loss to Bivol, he's looked more and more beatable in each fight. He couldn't put a dent on a 40 year old, almost retired GGG. Jermell Charlo who never fought at 168 took him 12. Charlo is bigger than Crawford but has a shorter reach and vastly inferior skillset. In fact, he was probably the one who benefited from Spence ducking of Bud as had Crawford gotten the Spence fight in 2019, he'd have moved up to 154 afterwards and Charlo would've never become undistuped and never gotten the Canelo payday.

We saw what happened to Munguia after he took Canelo 12. And he couldn't even get rid of a glorified club fighter like Berlanga, so Canelo is clearly on the decline.

Crawford is older than Canelo and he's probably on the decline too. But he has all the tools that troubled Canelo in the past. He has a heavy jab like GGG when he fights southpaw, obviously not enough to push him back but maybe enough to disrupt his rhythm. He can use his legs very efficiently like Floyd and Lara, he also has the variety to keep giving Canelo different looks. And considering Canelo has become a basic(but very good) aggresive counter puncher with a low output lately, he won't be hard to figure out for Bud.

I'm not saying I'd favour Crawford, Canelo winning by stoppage is still the most likely outcome. But maybe Bud grabbing a razor thin decision(I expect the judges to be fair in a Riyadh season event) isn't beyond the realm of possibilities.

 

So fully unifying the welterweight division in his third division wasn't risky?

Moving up and facing an unbeaten LMW in his 4th division wasn't risky?

And also try flipping the coin, how risky is it for Canelo be facing a 40 year old former LW? It's a joke of a fight.

I bet you were hyping up Golovkin against Brook as well weren't you.

 

"Why do you think Crawford is so eager to fight him?"

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Like charlo , mungia, and berlanga?

 

I have zero interest in this fight being made. But I respect Bud wants the paydays at this point, no point in risking it against the young up and comers at 154 at his age. Canelo beats him up badly though, far too big.

 

Jermello
But he ran track & field style for that very reason once he tasted Nelo’s power.

I got Nelo
But the American me thinks it would be fire if Bud smoked him.

I think it will be a great fight TBH well worth the PPV.

 

Yes!

 

"mediocre" Caleb Plant gave Benavidez more problems than he gave Canelo. Benavidez was being outboxed and even schooled at times throughout most of the first half of that bout against Plant until Benavidez started to wear him down though Benavidez couldn't get him outta there. Plant was competitive in spurts against Canelo and he held his own before being stopped but he looked way better against Benavidez. Now maybe that was a better version of Plant against Benavidez than Canelo but the fact is that Plant gave Benavidez more problems than he gave Canelo. Styles make fights and Plant had a lot to prove against Benavidez but still.

Problem with Saunders against Canelo was he wasn't fleet footed enough to avoid getting caught. Lemieux version of Saunders was quick on his feet, able to avoid big punchers. He didn't have the same speed and footwork 4 years later by the time he fought Canelo, and that was his downfall. He was competitive until he got caught but he posed no real problems for Canelo at any point in that match.

Canelo has dominanted everyone he fought since Bivol, the idea that he's been even remotely "beatable" since fighting Bivol is simply not the case. Berlanga maybe did better than anyone since Bivol in terms of getting into a back and forth brawl with him but it was still a clear win for Canelo. Canelo's still a beast at 168. Also I find it funny that you say he couldn't dent 40 year old GGG. He actually did "dent" GGG several times early in the match. Jacobs who was on commentary noticed the bruises on GGG's face in the live commentary. Canelo could have inflicted more punishment if he really pressed the action but largely let GGG survive, maybe in part because he was dominating GGG with a broken hand. No one's ever dominated GGG to that extent so to see what happened there as some kind of evidence that Canelo was more "beatable" seems like quite the stretch.

Canelo arguably looked more "beatable" against Plant or even Saunders than he's looked vs anyone since Bivol. Most fans on here see Canelo's victories against Plant and Saunders as closer than any fight he's had since Bivol, so your story sort of falls apart there with the caveat that perhaps Berlanga has an argument for taking Canelo in deeper waters than Plant or Sanders did and I think you could say landed harder and more significant shots on him. But as far as winning more rounds (in fans eyes at least) I think most would say Plant or Sanders won more rounds against Canelo than anyone has since Bivol.

As to your points about Crawford possibly having success against Canelo and maybe being able to win a razor thin decision if he avoids getting caught, yes I think that's possible and it's intriguing to see what Crawford could do against Canelo. Just seeing two highly skilled and top P4P fighters share the same ring is always interesting so there's a definite appeal there. Though i don't think Crawford has any real ability to hurt Canelo he does have the skills to perhaps outbox Canelo and win a decision if he fights the fight of his life.

 

What was the last southpaw canelo fought John Ryder? He kind of got lit up in that fight...

 

I don't pay for boxing usually but this fight, I'd be tempted to.

 

bud is getting beat up. he doesnt defend enough to avoid it. canelo will be looking to trade anywhere buds feet stop, and bud will make the mistake of obliging him. each punch will make bud smaller and smaller til there's too little left to stay with ginger.