Canelos improvement since Floyd has been extremely exaggerated.

cslb · May 11, 2021

Pimp C said: ↑

Canelo is the best fighter in the world today P4P #1. With that said despite him being the best there are simply no fighters out there today who can exploit his flaws mainly his lack of footspeed. You can see despite him beating Saunders rather easily that a guy with great movement can still trouble him. BJS was just simply not good enough to pull it off, he's not elite. There are really no elite fighters out there for him to fight 175 and down. I believe that if a guy like Ward who was elite was still around he would have been able to exploit the flaws in Canelo's game. Ward was a complete fighter who could fight at all ranges with good ring IQ and defense on top of that he was very mentally tough and very strong. He would be a nightmare for Canelo if he was prime today and fighting at 168 because he could bully him on the inside and outbox him on the outside. There are some guys who present stylistic threats like Bivol a guy who shows great movement and skills but his level of comp prevents me from picking him over Canelo. We simply don't know how good he is. Plant is another but he's no where near good enough. In closing Canelo is stronger now but looks to be much better now because his level of comp is no where as good as him. He's heads and shoulders above the guys he's fighting not his fault but it is what it is. If guys like a prime Ward were around you would see how much better he really got or is it the level of comp? This is not a knock on Canelo, I'm a fan but these are the facts. I still rate Canelo P4P #1 and don't see anyone beating him 175 and down for a long time because you can't knock him out and there's no one 175 and down who can outbox him. He will possibly go down as the GOAT of Mexican boxing.
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Fair post.

Dodgy Syrup · May 11, 2021

Is he the unstoppable behemoth that some make him out to be?

No, probably not.

Has he improved since he fought Mayweather?

I'd say, yes, unquestionably.

Teoownsloma1403 · May 11, 2021

Quina74 said: ↑

Why are you bringing nations/countries into this? I dont give a **** if a boxer is EE, Nicaraguan, or ****ing Zulu, I give a **** about giving fighters credit where it is due and not hyping up frauds who never fight on an even playing field
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I think you’re just salty that Latin American fighters have been making both eastern, and western, European fighters look like little b*tches in the ring lately

Heavy_Hitter · May 11, 2021

Pimp C said: ↑

Canelo is the best fighter in the world today P4P #1. With that said despite him being the best there are simply no fighters out there today who can exploit his flaws mainly his lack of footspeed. You can see despite him beating Saunders rather easily that a guy with great movement can still trouble him. BJS was just simply not good enough to pull it off, he's not elite. There are really no elite fighters out there for him to fight 175 and down. I believe that if a guy like Ward who was elite was still around he would have been able to exploit the flaws in Canelo's game. Ward was a complete fighter who could fight at all ranges with good ring IQ and defense on top of that he was very mentally tough and very strong. He would be a nightmare for Canelo if he was prime today and fighting at 168 because he could bully him on the inside and outbox him on the outside. There are some guys who present stylistic threats like Bivol a guy who shows great movement and skills but his level of comp prevents me from picking him over Canelo. We simply don't know how good he is. Plant is another but he's no where near good enough. In closing Canelo is stronger now but looks to be much better now because his level of comp is no where as good as him. He's heads and shoulders above the guys he's fighting not his fault but it is what it is. If guys like a prime Ward were around you would see how much better he really got or is it the level of comp? This is not a knock on Canelo, I'm a fan but these are the facts. I still rate Canelo P4P #1 and don't see anyone beating him 175 and down for a long time because you can't knock him out and there's no one 175 and down who can outbox him. He will possibly go down as the GOAT of Mexican boxing.
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If this was true than why did Canelo say he is too small for LHW and he is not going up in weight?

lufcrazy · May 11, 2021

This thread is so transparent.

Obviously you want to make Floyd's victory over Canelo look better, thus boosting Floyd's legacy, all so you can say the only person to beat Canelo is someone with a boosted legacy thus boosting Canelos legacy.

Canelo fan girl alert.

FrankinDallas · May 11, 2021

The Long Count said: ↑

He has improved but he can still be outboxed. Many ppl feel he never beat Triple G anyway. And that was a good style match up for him. He’s the face of the sport right now.
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Your 5-2 scorecard with Saunders in the lead is sufficient argument to place you on mute forever. Or at least until you gain some experience in the art of boxing.

Pimp C · May 11, 2021

lufcrazy said: ↑

This thread is so transparent.

Obviously you want to make Floyd's victory over Canelo look better, thus boosting Floyd's legacy, all so you can say the only person to beat Canelo is someone with a boosted legacy thus boosting Canelos legacy.

Canelo fan girl alert.
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He actually hates both PBF and Canelo equally.

The Long Count · May 11, 2021

FrankinDallas said: ↑

Your 5-2 scorecard with Saunders in the lead is sufficient argument to place you on mute forever. Or at least until you gain some experience in the art of boxing.
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where do I have Saunders up 5-2? Maybe you should go mute yourself

FrankinDallas · May 11, 2021

The Long Count said: ↑

where do I have Saunders up 5-2? Maybe you should go mute yourself
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Oops, I meant to quote quina74 not you. Sorry about that.

drenlou · May 11, 2021

Pimp C said: ↑

Canelo is the best fighter in the world today P4P #1. With that said despite him being the best there are simply no fighters out there today who can exploit his flaws mainly his lack of footspeed. You can see despite him beating Saunders rather easily that a guy with great movement can still trouble him. BJS was just simply not good enough to pull it off, he's not elite. There are really no elite fighters out there for him to fight 175 and down. I believe that if a guy like Ward who was elite was still around he would have been able to exploit the flaws in Canelo's game. Ward was a complete fighter who could fight at all ranges with good ring IQ and defense on top of that he was very mentally tough and very strong. He would be a nightmare for Canelo if he was prime today and fighting at 168 because he could bully him on the inside and outbox him on the outside. There are some guys who present stylistic threats like Bivol a guy who shows great movement and skills but his level of comp prevents me from picking him over Canelo. We simply don't know how good he is. Plant is another but he's no where near good enough. In closing Canelo is stronger now but looks to be much better now because his level of comp is no where as good as him. He's heads and shoulders above the guys he's fighting not his fault but it is what it is. If guys like a prime Ward were around you would see how much better he really got or is it the level of comp? This is not a knock on Canelo, I'm a fan but these are the facts. I still rate Canelo P4P #1 and don't see anyone beating him 175 and down for a long time because you can't knock him out and there's no one 175 and down who can outbox him. He will possibly go down as the GOAT of Mexican boxing.
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Well said Pimp C.

The Real Lance · May 11, 2021

Gimpy has said over and over canelo has not improved at all since the floyd fight....

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